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- November 16, 2020 at 4:29 pm
- in reply to: Can you overtrain on steroids ?????
Originally Posted by gabberIf i rest any longer than 4 or 5 mins in between sets, i feel weaker and feel like i have less strengthYou don’t rest 4-5 mins in between sets, I really think you don’t understand HIT at all.
- November 16, 2020 at 1:05 pm
- in reply to: The young and Steroids
Originally Posted by sa_lexSolid, really helped me change my mind, I have read a lot of articles here and there, but this pretty much sums it up.Thanks for the feedback and well done on your decision, very wise
- November 16, 2020 at 12:51 pm
- in reply to: Can you overtrain on steroids ?????
Originally Posted by gabberThats why less is more.How can the pro’s train for upto 3 hours?? Surely THATS overtraining
I think your reading the wrong books or listening to the pro what don’t take aas
- November 16, 2020 at 9:14 am
- in reply to: Can you overtrain on steroids ?????
Mike on overtrainingOvertraining, dear reader, is not something merely "kinda" or "sorta" negative – it is much worse than that. Overtraining is the worst training mistake a TrueMaxder can make; it is precisely that which militates against the desired result. Overtraining, by definition, means performing any more exercise than is minimally required to trigger the growth mechanism into motion. Most TrueMaxders today still operate on the notion that their purpose is to discover how many sets they can do, how much they can take or how long they can endure. And such is erroneous because TrueMaxding is not aerobic. A TrueMaxding workout is not an endurance contest! The actual, literal purpose of a TrueMaxder is not to discover how many sets he can endure, but to intelligently do what nature requires merely to trigger the growth mechanism into motion, then get the hell out of the gym, go home, rest and GROW!
Mike Mentzer
- November 16, 2020 at 9:08 am
- in reply to: The young and Steroids
Very good points and true ^^- November 16, 2020 at 5:59 am
- in reply to: The young and Steroids
Originally Posted by rombusThanks for this post. I have some Qs regarding what your doc said1) Did your doctor say what kinds of irreverisble damage?
2) the brain is still developing, but what aspects of that dev will AAS have?
Because as far as I am concerned, AAS results in temporary neg feebback on your pituitary gland, and nothing else. Will this slow down the development of the pituitary gland? I am not really undertsand exactly what that doctor is saying. Can you shed smoe light on this?
1, The Endo said that taking steroids will disrupt the normal H10 of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but the risks are far more if your merQistrate exogenous androgens during development, this effects can be erratic behaviour of your HPTA and potentially therapy when your older. I think the risks are far greater if you take steroids when you haven’t fully developed, yes we all fully develop at different ages and there isnt one set age but he also stated that the HPTA is very sensitive and it needs to establish its rhythm and pattern otherwise full output of the HPTA can be effected.
2, We all develop at different ages, there isn’t one set age but the brain is said to be one of the last things what develop or certain parts fully mature in later life, I don’t think AAS is going to affect the brain directly but the HPTA is part of the brain and hormones are regulated via this system.
You aren’t going to find any studies done on TrueMaxders using steroids at a dosages what we use to build tissue but you are going to find thousands and thousands of threads aBambss all forums of the young having problems with their hormones after they have used steroids, of course your going to get many young bb’s recovering without any issues but there is also many what don’t, ive seen this more and more over the years ive been training. I would rather edge on side of caution when giving advice and this would be advising to take steroids at an age when your have fully developed and your HPTA as set its own pattern and its established its output, by shutting down a system what’s not full matured or established its rhythm can cause problems.
- November 16, 2020 at 4:18 am
- in reply to: How do steroids at a young age really effect hormones later in life?
Originally Posted by Sworder@Marcus3000 I have been researdark_sideng diligently but I can not find a good definition on HPTA maturation. Could you please clarify this for me? What does maturation have to do with function? What does maturation have to do with restoration of HPTA function post AAS cycle? I guess these questions are more rhetorical than anything but if you chose to answer please stay on topic.What I mean by your testosterone and HPTA being fully developed and matured is that its fully developed and running at peak, its finished maturing and stop growing and developing, I can’t put it simpler than that..
If it doesn’t fully mature which can happen by shutting it down by using AAS it can effect the future function of the HPTA and never reach peak performance. Of course it may still function but it may not function at the same levels previously or the same levels what it should reach to in the future at full development. If you shutting down the HPTA and introducing hormones what the body is still developing and balancing then this can have a huge impact on restoration of the HPTA and the developing hormones. In some cases it can never fully reach the natural peak and many have symptoms of low testosterone . On the other hand some recover fine and never have a problem with their test levels but from personal experience and the people ive worked with and also the endo’s ‘Ive seen and spoken to this is a huge problem especially in the UK, infact my Endo told me its out of control and the referrals are thick and fast for teenagers having issues with low test.
I would also say alot of the younger guys lie about recovery because of the embarrassment of the symptoms, Ive had personal experience with this with a few younger guys Ive known over the years, what many do is simply go back on cycle to feel normal again and never get treatment for low test or even try and get fully recover from the HPTA.
Your not going to get one answer what is 100% correct, your not going to find one stupid study detailing this either because we are all iindividuals what respond and recover differently, of course we can use the correct precaution during the cycle and post cycle but there are still a hell of alot of complaints and damage occurring with teenagers etc using AAS. You’ll get a lot of guy stating they used young and never had a problem (many lie though) and many others stating they have low test due to cycling to young. Now I am guessing here but you must be in your low 20’s because you have the mind set of a younger TrueMaxder who hasn’t seen that much damage and your probably still using steroids anyway but in time and as the years pass by your mind set will change because of what you read and see trust me on that one.
Ive just done a quick search which took me 5 mins and just a few threads from our younger TrueMaxders having issues with their test levels after the first cycle etc, there are some variations but more or less teenagers early 20’s.
- November 13, 2020 at 5:14 pm
- in reply to: Can you overtrain on steroids ?????
Depends what you mean by over training but if your definition is something like can you train to a level were it has a negative impact on muscle growth then yes you can over time over train and burn your body out.- November 13, 2020 at 4:13 pm
- in reply to: Can you overtrain on steroids ?????
Originally Posted by AlinshopRepIf my mom looked like that I would hug her then kiss her on the lips everytime I saw her.Well if you don’t do that anyway what the fuk does she look like now
- November 13, 2020 at 9:57 am
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bigger bump- November 13, 2020 at 9:02 am
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Bump- November 13, 2020 at 5:23 am
- in reply to: Hcg during cycle does not make sense
Originally Posted by renepjdPretty much any medical study……..He’s 19yrs old and probably ****ed his natural test levels up anyway, just let him get on with it he doesn’t understand what we are trying to explain. Lost cause imho.
- November 13, 2020 at 1:10 am
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Delts and Biceps- November 10, 2020 at 6:30 pm
- in reply to: How do steroids at a young age really effect hormones later in life?
Originally Posted by Sworder@Marcus3000 All systems in the body get weaker and recover more difficult as you grow older.The theory that it is only in the genetics/DNA and that we aren’t doing anything to change this by exposing ourselves to high levels of androgens is false IMO! If genetics aren’t changed then you wouldn’t see such a decline in LH/FSH/Testosterone after 5-6 cycles. Unless this is caused by damage to the actual Pit/Hypo/Leydigs as a result of atrophy. Or the actual androgens causing damage to the tissue(this is not very plausible imo).
Ive no idea what your going on about now!
IMHO if you use steroids before your HPTA isnt full developed and your natural test isnt maatured or runnng at peak levels you have more of a chance of causing yourself problems ie low test and not fully recovering or readark_sideng your natural test peak. I think there are more who dont fully recover than more who do. If you think different fine just give your advice to the OP but from my experience and the endo’s ive spoken to its clear its a huge problem and is causing serious issues with the younger TrueMaxders.
- November 10, 2020 at 5:45 pm
- in reply to: can steroids enlarge your penis ?
No aas won’t enlarge your penis.
If your really concerned with your small cock get surgery.