Can you overtrain on steroids ?????

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    sm2k
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    Okay so I know you can’t train arms everyday etc when on AAS but can you train say 6 times a week no problem ?? Say upper body twice then lower body once, for example
    Monday: chest & tris
    Tuesday: back & bi’s
    Wednesday: legs
    Thursday: delts & traps
    Friday: tri’s & bi’s & forearms
    Saterday: legs
    Sunday: rest !
    Each session about 60-70 minutes, my aim is to add at least 1 inch around arms as they really struggle to gain size !! Cycle is 650mg test & 700mg deca

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    Domus
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabberView
    Who is the women in ur avatar

    My mom, why?

    Sarus
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    Like the others above said. As a beginner, your workout schedule is probably not the biggest thing you need to worry about. Diet and fuel are equally if not more important at the beginning. I do question how you came up with your AAS dosages. Seems like a lot of gear if you’re just starting out.

    As for over training, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Over training is usually only seen in very elite athletes. Over training is not an easy thing to do.

    JUDGE DREDD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domus
    My mom, why?

    Hahaha your mom? I don’t even know she got a dark_sideld already. Lol

    1CBC
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    screw all you overtraining bitches. just excuses for laziness!

    bust your ass work hard and you’ll see results.

    < <Samson> >
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    Over training – Just like anything else, you will hit a plateau.

    I am trying to avoid it myself. Been hitting the gym 6 days a week for over a month. Right about an hour each time. A little longer if I throw in cardio.

    Even on the sauce that I am on I feel beat up. I am going back to 4-5 days a week with an extra day of cardio.

    Over training exists, not in a life threatening sort of way in most cases. But, it just stops progress.

    Quote Originally Posted by DomusView
    My mom, why?

    God would I love to have a mom like yours!

    I train 7 days a week and only take a day off when I get sick.
    Nilsonik
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    "there aint no mothaf#@k&ng such thing as overtraining" Ct Fletcher lmao
    OnTheSauce
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    Quote Originally Posted by NilsonikView
    "there aint no mothaf#@k&ng such thing as overtraining" Ct Fletcher lmao

    I like the sound of this

    Droll
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by AlinshopRepView
    God would I love to have a mom like yours!

    Why would you want your mom to look good that makes you kinda weird man.
    I wouldn’t want a hot mom just saying.lol

    Quote Originally Posted by DrollView
    Why would you want your mom to look good that makes you kinda weird man.
    I wouldn’t want a hot mom just saying.lol

    If my mom looked like that I would hug her then kiss her on the lips everytime I saw her.

    OnTheSauce
    Member
    She would cook hella good meals
    marcus300
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlinshopRepView
    If my mom looked like that I would hug her then kiss her on the lips everytime I saw her.

    Well if you don’t do that anyway what the fuk does she look like now

    marcus300
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    Depends what you mean by over training but if your definition is something like can you train to a level were it has a negative impact on muscle growth then yes you can over time over train and burn your body out.
    Droll
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    Overtraining is where the body’s ability to recover and further adapt is severely diminished. Athletes and clients’ suffering from overtraining generally have a significant drop in results and psychologically, lose the motivation to train and/or compete and win. They feel that they no longer have the ability to compete at the highest level.

    There can be two divisions of overtraining – parasympathetic and sympathetic.
    Parasympathetic (sometimes referred to as addisonoid overtraining) is where the body attempts to slow down its functioning to conserve energy. And commonly occurs amongst aerobic athletes and high volume training associated in older adults.

    Some symptoms associated with parasympathetic overtraining include:

    Significantly lower than normal resting heart rate
    Low blood pressure
    Anaemia
    Emotional instability
    Depression
    Sympathetic overtraining (sometimes referred to as basedowian overtraining) is where the body speeds up its functioning and consumes more energy. This commonly occurs more amongst anaerobic athletes and high intensity training more so in younger athletes (Bompa, 1999).

    Some symptoms associated with sympathetic overtraining include:

    Increased RHR (resting heart rate)
    Rapid weight loss
    Loss of appetite
    Disrupted sleep
    Wilmore and Costills’ (1994) research has shown and extended prevalence of aCrash007al hormones such as epinephrine and nor epinephrine in the sympathetic overtrained. This explains the elevated resting heart rate (RHR).

    Now because you or your client may be experiencing one or more of these symptoms, this does not necessarily mean you are overtrained. I often hear this from people and when I begin to delve into their exercise and work history I realize that this is not the case, simply they are unhealthy or trying to ‘burn the candle at both ends.’ If you are experiencing one or more of these symptoms for an extended period of time and you are training and working (occupation) quite frequently (4 times per week minimum) intensely, then yes you may be overtrained. However, view the whole picture and look at your performance and progression factors to determine if this is the case.

    On a more biochemical level, athletes or clients suffering from overtraining will exhibit elevated levels of cortisol, and a decrease in the levels of testosterone . This becomes detrimental to the athletes performance and adaptation qualities because cortisol is a catabolic hormone (breaks down) involved in breakdown of muscle, and testosterone is an anabolic component (forms, builds), involved in protein synthesis (repair and strengthening of muscle).

    Common Causes of Overtraining

    There are a number of major causes of overtraining. The main ones I wish to briefly discuss in this article are:

    Nutritional Deficiency
    Inadequate Quality of Recovery
    ‘Too much, too soon’ Intensity/Load
    Quality of recovery is also extremely important and occurs in synergy with quality nutrition. Factors that may affect quality of recovery include the following:

    Interrupted sleep
    Insufficient sleep (consistently less than 6 hours)
    Over exertion in non-training activities
    Lack of motivation
    Without a correct periodised approach athletes can become prone to the ‘Too much, too soon’ scenario. This not only applies to the un-trained but also well- trained. A sudden significant increase in variables such as frequency and intensity can diminish an athlete�s adaptive reserve and therefore body’s ability to adapt and recover – increasing the chance of exposing the athlete to overtraining.

    Prevention & Recovery of Overtraining

    Let’s begin with the principal of ‘Individuality’. The severity of the signs and symptoms vary between individuals. Unfortunately, if these signs and symptoms appear, the person is already suffering from overtraining (if correctly diagnosed). Hence, the recovery process must be allowed to take place. Some of the recovery methods employed in this situation include:

    Decrease in training load
    Decrease in training intensity
    Decrease in frequency of training
    Increase in quality and quantity of nutrition
    Complete rest is not necessarily the best form of medicine -again it depends on the individual. However what must also be considered is the psychological component of a person being told that they can’t train or must decrease their training load, especially if they are ‘gun ho’ and extremely St07ed and determined on adark_sideeving their goals.

    Secondly, a periodised approach is essential, especially when dealing with athletes on any level. Periodising when to increase/decrease training load, intensity and frequency is extremely important not only for prevention of overtraining but also prevention of injury and allowing the athlete to peak at the correct levels. Within the periodised approach you should calculate performance indicators. This is to allow you to determine where the athlete should be and at what stage of their development or program (i.e. anatomical adaptation, general preparation, etc). If your client isn’t close to the performance indicators/standards set by you, then you need to establish why.

    Keeping training records is important in establishing how the athlete is progressing and monitoring the signs and symptoms of overtraining before they take a hold. Some documented evidence of the following should be record and attained by athlete and coach:

    Date / Day
    Session duration
    Exercises completed
    Distance / speed etc
    How the athlete / person felt before & after session
    Training times
    Perceived Exertion
    Sets / Reps / Tempo etc
    Total load for the week/session/month
    Last but not least, encourage variety in training both physically and mentally. Training can be fun and challenging with a change in environment. If you normally train your client inside then maybe take them outside to the beach, or instead of the usual weights session, try a cardio session.

    Other common suggestions for treatment of overtraining may involve cessation of training for a few days – complete rest, change in nutrition, increase in fluid intake or maybe an alternate work-out routine for variety. Maybe aim to get a therapeutic massage once a week.

    Conclusion

    It is important that athletes and respective coaches begin to understand their athletes more and understand the signs and possible symptoms of overtraining in their quest to compensate or assist in preventing it. No one should know their body more than the athlete themselves.

    Remember there are four major categories of symptoms when it comes to overtraining. They are physiological, psychological, biochemical and immunological. Some of the common ones to be aware of include:

    Elevated RHR (resting heart rate)
    Mild leg soreness, & continual upper body soreness
    Pain in muscles & joints
    Lethargic feeling, tired, drained, lack of energy
    Sudden drop in performance
    Unable to maintain training volume / intensity
    Insomnia
    Headaches, migraines
    Inability to relax, fidgety
    Insatiable thirst, dehydration
    Increase in incidence of common illnesses; colds, sore throat, etc.
    Something I read awhile back maybe it will help clarify.

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