MuscleInk

Originally Posted by neka

I just started my first cycle. I injected 1cc into each delt. I was told to expect a little bit of pain for a couple of days in the injection site due to the slow burning oils. This came about day 2 in both delts, and only lasted about 24 hours in the right delt. It is now day 4 and the left delt is still killing me. It is rock hard and very sore, and the skin is pinkish. Is this a normal experience for the first injection or is something wrong?

Par for the course. Apply heat source and light massage or a warm soak in the tube. 400-800mg Motrin for pain.

Watch for following symptoms:

– fever
– nausea
– discoloration/redness
– site remains hard
– further swelling
– loss of movement/range of motion

These symptoms could indicate an infection and requires medical attention.

What size of needle did you use? Are you rotating your injections? What are you injecting and dose?

Originally Posted by sandr031

I love TBOL. Great strength and LBM gains. Currently doing 80mg/ED but I think 60mg/ED is the sweet spot for me as I’m writing this with a splitting headache.

Also I think the effect on liver is overblown. Just got back some bloodwork and my liver values were normal.

Overblown? I’d be careful saying that. A lot of young guys coming in here will read that and assume orals are safe and that simply is untrue. A damaged liver cannot be replaced and you cannot survive without it. Orals are far more hepatotoxic and effect everyone differently.

That kind of statement could result in a very bad decision for someone.

Originally Posted by Shadowmaker

i just had to change my avatar for this one…
do i really look so much worse than you do? like – do i look so crappy that you can honestly say that you are so much better cause you know stuff more than i do?

How do you judge someone’s degree of intellect on the basis of their appearance?

…..and your argument is only weakened by this. If you’ve adark_sideeved this without the aid of gear and you’re only 22, why fix what isn’t broken? Keep doing what you’re doing!

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Overall your penis size is pretty much set in stone by age 15 or so…after that surgery is the only option to truely increase size…not that I have researched it

Of course you haven’t researched it……although your knowledge of penises is much more than a novice user.

Just saying.

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I agree, never tried any though. But, I know they work, of course they do. But, I like my liver way too much.

Considering liver transplants are impossible, I’ve grown attached to mine and prefer to avoid orals…..unless its my wife giving me oral pleasure.

Originally Posted by PlatZ

No it’s universal in life. If you have no experience in a certain field of knowledge and you walk up to somebody and tell him you’ve made your mind up about something very specific in that area, you’re not sending a very mature message to motivate experts to help you. If a guy asks you "hey I’m hungry how do I make a shit sandwich?" You don’t just tell him how to make a shit sandwich, you educate him about other options that could quite possibly be much better than shit sandwich.

Glad you’re carrying the torch PlatZ. I was getting tired of arguing with the village idiots.

I’m not sure how one "does their research on doses" but "doesn’t know what a good first cycle is". That doesn’t exactly characterize a state of readiness in my mind.

I’m also relived that a young man of 22 years of age is certain he won’t compromise his endocrine system. Then again, I’m just a 43 year old MD, what could I possibly know about the maturation of an endocrine system.

Originally Posted by snowblowjoe

Kelkel, I wasn’t referring to you.

That wasn’t the point SBJ. There are plenty of members here on TRT that have never used steroids . Your comment implies that anyone on TRT wasn’t knowledgable enough to prevent it.