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Originally Posted by Narkissos

Truthfully though, nothing wrong with running both.

Good call!

Nothing wrong with using both… unless it’s your second cycle and you don’t have blood work or end cycles in a timely manner.

Cough, cough OP.

Originally Posted by Luccuss

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most people my age will just say, yeah whateva..
so i would recommend putting down both options, let them know the details of ages n effects but also give them a cycle that they can use, and if they use properly they will not be in the way of any harm, i know people who supply heavy anabolics for first time users. i recommend just put up a cycle, very easy to understand as if a 12yr old was reading, including how much to eat, what to eat and what not to eat for either gaining just muscle, just bulk or inbetween,(sounds bad) but its better than getting it from black market and having no idea of whats happening. thankyou.

I would recommend that if you would like to see a thread written to spoon feed young men how to cycle that you do the research and compile it yourself. You can be the forum’s specialist on cycling with an undeveloped endocrine system. No no one on this forum who fully comprehends the dangers of cycling at young age would make a thread like that because it completely undermines the morals of this board. There are many reasons why this is the best AAS forum on the internet. One of those reasons is the overlying stance on AAS use and the young. You may be aware of the risks but you don’t fully understand them because if you did then you would know there is no such thing as safe cycling at a young age. Welcome to the forum!

Originally Posted by bizzarro

What do you know about tren and reduction of endogenous thyroid hormones output?

Ever had bloodwork about this?

Yeah it lowers t3 my slightly but it’s nothing to worry about as far as weight gain.

It’s not necessary to use t3 with tren because it still increases your metabolism somehow.

Originally Posted by Silabolin

U have good experiences with t3?

Yes great experiences especially during a bulk, that’s why I brought it up.

Helps keep bf low(er) on a bulk.

T3 works well with tren , nandrolone or tren/nandrolone on a cut or bulk.

It’s much better and less expensive than any SARM or peptide.

Originally Posted by T-boner

I started at 145 lbs. Putting on weight has been a struggle my whole life. I thought I was doing good. Dodnt realize my gains aren’t very good. I feel great though. Putting on that 30 to 35 pounds has helped me a lot in the way I feel and my confidence.

I’m not that saying your gains are bad, you’ve come a long way.

Cycling isn’t healthy so it’s kind of a waste of your health to use AS of your diet isn’t on point to meet your goals.

You can use any compound stack or dosage you want but they won’t make up for large deficiencies in diet raining.

Originally Posted by T-boner

5’10"
180 lbs
42 years old
13-14% body fat
Lift 5-6 days per week.
2800-3200 calories depending if protein is from dark_sidecken or beef.

With respect you don’t need tren at this point you need to learn how to eat for growth.

Considering your stats and your previous cycles you should be over 200lb.

No offense but someone who’s 5’10" should be able to get to 180lb before their first cycle.

From May 2016 to April 2017 is less than a year.

Look buddy I’m not trying to give you an attitude or start an argument.

I’m literally just offering impartial advice.

If my original assumption was incorrect then I apologize.

Again, what are your stats?