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    Quote Originally Posted by KainView
    Theoretically, yes. Nolvadex will reduce IGF-1 and do nothing to address estrogenic sides barring gyno. .

    IF Nolva does nothing for estrogenic sides other then gyno , then why do women use it in contest prep ?

    the reason its used by women (and men) in contest prep leading up to a show is because it does a lot more then just limit gyno (though its popular for only that on the forums). Nolva blunts estrogenic effects at the receptor sites (not just breast tissue receptors) . it blunts estrogen effects in regards to water retention as well as estrogenic based fat storage (common in hips, thighs, and lower stomach).

    its simple.. if your blocking estrogen at receptor sites, then your blocking estrogenic effects , period.
    a very basic way to think about Nolvadex is to think of it as an estrogen itself (it technically is). as an estrogen it is going to bind to and occupy estrogen receptors thus blocking actual E2 (more powerful forms of estrogen) from binding. this is going to have whole body effects, and not just at the breast tissue like some guys think .. and again is why Nolva is used by women in contest prep to help limit fat storage and obtain a more dry hard appearance.

    as for the bro myth that Nolva limits IGF and is therefore going to hinder your gains.

    keep in mind the original findings that Nolva can lower IGF was found in women with breast cancer. the small decrease in IGF in these women with cancer is considered a good thing (elevated IGF will make cancer grow). it was to the drug companies benefit to exaggerate and promote these findings.
    however, when you compare the dosage of Nolva these women were taking, and compare that to a maintenance dose of Nolva that a man who is on AAS is taking the idea that a small dent in IGF output would make any difference what so ever to the man is laughable. He’s running a low dose of Nolva which would probably not even lower IGF, and even if it did he is on so much other growth factors (AAS, HGH, even IGF itself) its not going to make a bit of difference.
    its like removing a cup of sand from the beach.. sure the beach has less sand now, but you really think that changes anything with the entire beach. no.

    Nolva is not going to lower IGF to any degree for a man on AAS that it would hinder gains in any way shape or form.

    ask Jordan Peters if Nolva limited his gains. he went from 120 pounds to 310 pounds utilizing Nolva as his anti estrogen.
    looks to me like the gains were there despite the nolva usage

    • in reply to: Boldenone
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    you can always run retentive based compounds that can help you add some size, but are not all that "watery" per se..
    for example, combining NPP, EQ, and Anadrol . you’ll likey put on 10-12 pounds but most all the retention is going to be in the muscle cells rather then spilling over.
    or combing a bulking agent with a dry agent . so like Deca and Winstrol together.

    Test can definitely make you look watery . this is why I always pull test out for guys in contest prep about 3 weeks out from the show.

    and again, you can always run a ‘no test’ cycle if you pick the correct compounds to run , or you can just keep test super low, like 100mg a week

    I’ve ran EQ (as my anabolic ) low dose Tren (ay my androgen) and low dose Dbol (as my estrogen and DHT) .. with NO test, as the combination provided everything I needed that test would provide essentially. felt great. functioned great. my skin cleared up (test is bad on my skin)

    OldBoy
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    I gained around 30 pounds my first cycle ,, kept it all and gained another 20 or so over the years. but I was a skinny cardio guy (cyclist and runner) to begin with .

    what you gain is somewhat dependent on your starting point

    OldBoy
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    if your worried about keeping your hair over anything else,, then running low low dose androgens only and running mainly anaboics is going to be your best bet.

    example –
    tren = super andrgeonic (5x more then test)
    Deca = mainly anabolic (half as androgenic as test)

    keep in mind that test is equally androgenic as it is anabolic, BUT test converts to DHT which is going to bind to DHT receptors, like in the hair, and promote androgenic properties .

    Finasteride is going to limit the conversion of test into DHT. which can definitely help with hair loss. but it will do nothing for something that does not convert to DHT, like Tren, which is purely and strongly androgenic all on its own

    OldBoy
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    alright guys , if you ever get a steroid protocol from me , and you see 200mg of Finaplex listed , you know what you got to do

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmanView
    Got it .. I had read this statement that boldenone could not be used with Dianabol in the book Anabolic Steroids by Anthonny Roberts and Brian Clapp

    I can’t think of any reason why that would be suggested. can you copy and paste their reasoning.

    I use EQ all the time for cruising phases as well as Dbol all the time pre workout. never had an issue. also have had EQ in volumization phases with Dbol. found them to work quite well together (though Anardol is a bit better with it for a volumization phase)

    OldBoy
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    there is no comparison.. not sure why this is even a topic . you guys need to think deeper about this stuff.
    OldBoy
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    I like to use EQ as a ‘filler’ compound. eg., lets say you want to run a gram of test as the base of a cycle, but your a bit estrogen sensitive. so instead of 1000mg of test, you run 400mg of test with 600mg of eq and that give you your 1 gram test base essentially (Eq is not very estrogenic)

    note: EQ is chemically/structurally just injectable Dbol (without the 17alk) , though it acts way different when metabolized by the body

    Primobolan is probably the best pure anabolic there is (in regards to muscle building vs side effects). pretty much the only thing it does is build quality tissue. gains from primo are keepable and sustainable. it also has some anti estrogen effects, so you’ll get a bit more ‘dry’ appearance from it (if you want to keep estrogen elevated though to help with growth, then make sure to run plenty of test when running Primo .. running Primo with just a TRT dose will likely lower your E2).
    Primo is also pretty good at nutrient partitioning and glycogen loading. if your dieting or on a cut and in a calorie deficit Primo will help you stay anabolic and keep your muscles full (instead of flat while dieting). also why its a great pre contest drug.

    I like both EQ and Primo as compounds to cruise on (one or the other). I’m off cycle and cruising on 350mg of Primo currently. I’ve also cruised on 500mg of EQ as well (much more affordable to do).

    I’ve said this before, but if you could only have a couple compounds to be on for the rest of your life then
    HGH
    insulin
    Primobolan

    would definitely get the job done and build an awesome physique and yet have very little negative side effects (you could live a long healthy ‘jacked’ life just running that year after year).

    note: Primobolan is one of the safest AAS. its one of the only AAS given to pre-mature born infants. . also even though Primo has been around for decades, chemically/structurally it is one of the most advanced steroids we have today

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by tessView
    Trying to decide if I should load Masteron in the first half for its cutting properties and then just coast on the Test until I’m out. I only have 10ml of each (250mg/ml Test and 100mg/ml Mast)

    using mast to cut the first half of a cycle and then trying to bulk the second half is going to be a waste and result in you spinning your wheels. putting on quality muscle tissues takes months and months, you need every minute St07ed on bulking If thats your goal

    personally, bulking with test and mast , with those two compounds low dosages are not going to accomplish a whole lot

    • in reply to: Boldenone
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValtView
    But whats the difference since both are anabolics and same compound, boldenone gives lean gains compared to dbol more wet

    And i like the idea of not using testosterone tbh i aways look better off cycle bcus of the water weight loss but such thing, How would it impact recovery if say 9 months no test and 3 months off cycle with pct, and hows libido without test as base? And also the psychological side of view with zero test ?

    wet gains are more beneficial for muscle growth overall in the first place .. so I wouldn’t really let water weight hold you back if your number one goal is to put on as much muscle as possible

    OldBoy
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    nothing ,, unless we see your training and diet set up drugs don’t work without the co factors
    OldBoy
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    yes same exact compound structurally on paper , other then that Boldenone is not methylated (17 alkalated). the Methylation of Dbol simply makes it available in oral form.

    HOWEVER.. methylating a drug makes it get metabolized by the liver in a far different manner then the same exact drug that is not methylated and is going to have way different effects in the body.
    so much so, for example, that Dbol is very estrogenic and Boldenone is not. even though they are the same chemical structure, they act much different in the body.

    yes you can most definitely run EQ and Dbol together.. both willl help with volumization. the EQ will work though mainly anabolic pathways only , whereas the Dbol will work though secondary mechanisms like estrogen, water retention, nutrient partitioning, etc.
    so they work just fine together

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGregorView
    A friend just gave me two bottles of Tren Ace to try. What should I expect from adding Tren to my testosterone blast?
    (He planned on running Tren but decided to run something more mild instead and sold me the bottles for quite a good price).

    octaneforce has a good point .. what to expect from Tren , well believe it or not you may end up actually losing weight from using Tren (happens a lot with guys). bulking with Tren requires a bit more strategy then bulking with Test and Dbol . some guys can’t use Tren at all for bulking

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatManView
    You have been around a long time you should have no problems getting legit primo. In the last few years the AAS/HGH game has drastically changed. There is a lot more testing available and labs are putting out legit products for the most part now. If you fail a random test your reputation is shot. Legit primo is definitely out there.

    agree with this 100% .. coming from me a guy that spent $370 a bottle for Primo from an anti aging clinic years ago . never again. plenty of affordable real primo out there now

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxelView
    Adrol isnt cut out for me.

    Im,a estrogen bomb. I cant deal with sonething that has unfixable estro issues along side test.

    I may toss a negligible dose of 10mg a day into a cycle soon but i doubt it.

    Id spend more on tudca to stop toxicity than its worth to run

    ever ran Superdrol?

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