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Originally Posted by Cafoo

Caber is a dopamine agonist. If it messes with your dopaminergic system you can bet it will alter your mood. Stay away unless you actually need this.

Since we’re talking about DA’s here… Prami which is also a Dopamine Agonist differs a little having a profound effect on the D3 receptor as well as regulating a rise in prolactin(in reference to 19nors being Progestins)…

As I know some may experience more sides w/Prami As its stronger and stable in liquid form… My point is why can’t you youse Caber say if on a pain med like codeine(mentioned in musitiontinites "How to manage prolactin"(in shorter words) but Prami is actually prescribed in patients who take Methadose(for RLS)… Can someone explain why codiene renders Caber inactive, but Prami can be taken w/a pain med like Methadone/ose?? Curious as I’m in the weening off process at the moment, and can’t find info on (Prami and its effects while taking MD EXCEPT in RLS patients)… So I’m assuming it doesn’t have the effect like that of Caber does w/codeine based drugs… (never a heroin addict – just been thru the ringer and back as posted b4)! Thanx in advance!

Originally Posted by Vеnоm428

Yes I know that these compounds shouldn’t be compared but just thinking about 300 mgs primo or 500 mgs deca for my next cycle. I never ran primo or deca. I live in Turkey and can get schering primos directly from our pharmacies.

I read that musitiontin says any less than 600 mgs primo, is worthless. I’d prefer primo for some "no-side effects at all" reasons but what about gains at 250 mgs test e with 300 mgs primo? Worthless? What about 250 mgs test e with 500 deca?

Thanks,

I’d not run primo under 800mgs tbh – w/that said 350mgs its not even a comparison to 500mgs of deca wkly… Deca all the way(AI DA HCG on cycle) w/a DA you could wait till mid cycle bloods – then make any necessary adjustments – if your E2 is dialed in w/an AI!

Originally Posted by

Honestly it looks like you did well on the test/dbol cycle. Keeping 12 of 15 lbs is great. I’d run that a couple more times since it works for you. If it’s not broke don’t fix it.

^^^ I agree… If it ain’t broke don’t fix it… One reason I haven’t run Tren yet – Nandrolone is still giving me great results(so I’m going to stick w/it myself again – when that time comes ) – another option is NPP – the shorter ester of Nandrolone….

Originally Posted by MisterRogers

The pics are cool yes I have had 4 MRI done and two were with radio isotopes the labrum tear is very clear with a possible partial tear on the rotator cuff thanks for the help guys I’m going to take my PT serious and not rush into anything just curious and I know everyone is different just wondering how long I should wait before my next cycle?

Once you’ve got back to where you are/were b4 do your joints(ligaments and tendons) will not tear or pop etc… Muscle memory is great and it’ll only take you about 4-6 months to get back to or very close to where you were!

Originally Posted by Werewolf998

You could really end up screwing things up here just guessing in this case. Honestly id start dosing the stane at 12.5mg ed at the very least. I honestly suspect your e2 is too high if anything. My boy Ryan get sore joints when his e2 is elevated & he knows this from confirming with blood work. Thats why you need to try to budget for blood work in your cycles. Because the symptomology for low and high e2 is so similar it can be easy to confuse the 2 scenarios

Very interesting Jimmy… I haven’t heard that symptom for high E2 – but that just proves the Importance of BW!

Originally Posted by Werewolf998

Whats done is done. Just be prudent now, dont do anything foolish and as has been said, St07 on diet and training for a few years while educating yourself and then make the steroid decision down the road at a more appropriate age and time. I would say if your feeling fine then thats great, to keep it that way be smart and take this as far as you can naturally for the next few years and go from there.

So many people look past diet and a good training program! That is where you’ll see the "magic" happen… Once dialed in your gonna be very glad you didn’t make this jump so soon!

As Jimmy said stick around educate and if the time comes at the right age and your health is good, then you have a descion to make! But it’s good to get these things on track b4 and get as big as you possibly can(foundation yo build upon even more) GL and glad you found this forum!

Originally Posted by ssj4goku1992

There are multiple studies that show that until 50 mg/ day there is no suppresion happening. So how is it suppresive then? And what product is better at improving libido?

Very old school(though it’s used by competitors w/test base)… Try a PDE-5 Inhibitor(cialis/V/PT-141(some like it some don’t) – won’t know till ya try!