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    • November 5, 2020 at 12:39 pm
    • in reply to: anadrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAView
    I would never workout right after I got up. You’ve been fasting all night. Lift later in the day if you can.

    Or wake up earlier and get that meal in and digested then w/o

    That’s not enough food b4 a w/o especially breaking your nightly fast after sleeping(your probly catabolic by that time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf998View
    While I am not dismissing this by any means I think it is important to keep it in perspective. If I recall correctly the numbers are like 1.3% of users experience this in some form. While it is obviously a serious side effect that warrants concern those #’s are very, very low. I have always steered people towards dutasteride over finasteride but i would imagine the premise is the same. It seemed to me in my readings that duta is not only the more effective 5ar inhib mg for mg, it also inhibits both 5ar enzymes, not just one like finasteride does.

    Edit*** I’ve fiund some studies/info etc…. Thx – very informative thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo13View
    Whats your age?

    34…. His!

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    That will suffice… Correct!

    It also helps keeping your boys from atrophy(shrinkage) aswell as what lovbyts stated!

    • November 5, 2020 at 11:14 am
    • in reply to: anadrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegilbert1986View
    the worst thing is being tired i hate being tired the best is pumps strenth

    i just have it sitten around so you know….

    I bet that has much to do w/you not ever donating(and been blasting/& cruising for over 7 months now?!

    I’d say it’s nutrition based… As you mr probly not drinking nearly enough water(hence the cramps, water retention(bloat), etc! Again, if your diet is on point one can cut on these compounds so I would think of hitting the diet section as it can’t hurt…

    And it’s hslf life is about 8.5-9 hrs so twice a day would be best for blood levels, though it can be taken once… I wiuld always do a split dose(2x a day)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300View
    Yeah, pulsing works.
    I couldn’t tolerate oral winstrol (had no problem with the depot) for a cycle,
    but with pulsing that resolved itself.

    With drol or d-Bol, pulsing is my preferred method… For winny var t-Bol I’ll backload them To finish strong – but pulsing imho is far better – one can up the dosage and you can run it longer without the side effects and gain gain gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen051View
    I know what PCT is guys, as I explained the first 9 week cycle involves 6 weeks of synthetic 500mg test which is followed by 3 weeks of PCT at 350mg for week 7, 200mg for week 8 and 100mg for week 9 followed by 3 weeks of no sythetic test at all before starting the next cycle.

    Every cycle includes this format for testosterone as it is used in every cycle.

    In bold is where your losing everyone – are you tapering down off of the test?? If so not needed – just drop then pct = clomid and nolvadex -SERMs only!!! And definitely no test!!!

    Secondly winny will wreck havoc on your precious joints for running – you’ll feel like 60 yr old man lol – why only 6wks(of supposed test)?? That’s hlf a cycle??

    HCG is ran on cycle to keep your testes functional and mimicks LH Production – nod helps w/a smoother pct!

    Can you read that link again please and then try to answer our questions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseView
    Wow, awesome responses! I agree that’s a good idea not to jump too high too soon when things are working. I think it’s a throw up between a test e only cycle at 750mgs/week same as my previous but obviously an extra 250mgs.

    On the flip side I might go test e/EQ is eq any good? Worth it?
    As for NPP it looks like the better deca alternative, but is it shoe EOD or bi weekly?

    Thanks!

    I like your approach – if your gonna add a compound(consider a kicker at the beginning or look into pulsing orals – what oral would you take if you did) – Eq – that’s one ive not run(itll raise your hematocrit levels quickly as its for horses – a favorite amongst cyclists for more RBCs = more O2) some like it – itll also increase your appetite if bulking… I’ve personally never ran it – and from the statements I’ve read from the Vets here I’ll never run it – they all say it’s a waste of space in your barrel/syringe lol

    NPP is Nandrolone – just a short ester(Phenyl Propionate ) you can pin daily or EOD is just as good! It clears in 3-4 days after last inj(phenyl prop – pct would start at most 4 days after last oin – it’s really splitting hairs if you run test prop w/it pct starts 3 days after – you don’t necessarily need to run your test a wk longer but I did and just start your pct 3 days after last pin…

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAGOT View
    I’ll be juicing on a cut, because countless people juice on a cut, as I’m sure you know. Maintain muscle and reduce a bit of body fat, I will indeed be using a treadmill and counting calories as well as maBambs as stated. Tren is one of the best to use on a cutting cycle, even more so this particular combination. Are you saying juicing should only ever be used for bulking?

    I was going to run tren eod, but this mix as it comes would be a little bit too much for me.

    Good advice on the arimidex though, might be worth cutting that back a bit!

    That’s the problem with mixes – you can’t usually get the actual dose you want hence why I’d always get each compound separately – some mixes have good ratios but some suck… what’s the ratio of test/tren/mast right now? Yiu could always pick up s bottle of each and use the mix to keep
    It just short than add in whatever else your dosage will be?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdogView
    Word around the gym is she benches more than Nach!

    That was supposed to be kept between us! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212View
    If ur asking questions like this then u need to do some reading. Go to the stickies and read up on the drugs u are trying to put in ur body. Btw I hope u have a shit ton of money to be running primo, hgh and test.

    ^^Well stated advice here by all who dark_sidemed in! Definitely do more research… And your first cycle should be a test only cycle(just to see how your body reacts to test b4 adding other compounds(that way you will then know what compound is causing the side effects)!

    Plus unless Ya gotta script for HGH(it’s one of the most faked, and Primo is also faked a lot aswell(some UGL’s put Winny instead… Which is much harder on ur joints! And like tice1212 said, your gonna spend a boat load!

    Good luck OP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSonView
    The number of people who come here looking for advice on how to correct what their "friends, buddies and/trainer" told them to do is practically uncountable. Follow the advice in the stickie, imho.

    This^^^ everyday we have members trainers proposing tren cycles as a first cycle – or oral only cycles – cycles w/out test as a base – clearly they’re uneducated on how hormones and your endocrine system actually works!

    Hell, most docs don’t know half of what some members know and some have forgot more than they’d ever know,… Horrible but the truth!

    Follow that link Odin posted an yes follow it to the T… AI HCG both from the start of your cycle – if they say anything different show em this forum so they too can properly be educated – GL

    PS – If no one knows your on cycle your not doing it right – at all lol – you should want people to think it at the very least – it gets to a point that no matter what they know…. Believe me they will ask – everyday it seems lol

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    I wish you nothing but the best brother! If you need a sounding board we have a great community here! Best of luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattybee123View
    I guess I jumped the gun a little to be honest, I use it more as a strength compound although the leaning up effects are nice! Whats NPP like for strength ?

    For me it was great! I ran my test higher than the NPP – I like higher test w/Nandrolone !

    If diet and training are on point – i bulked(cleanly) gained 20+lbs and dropped about 4% in bf all while gaining strength(on a caloric surplus – weighed the food but didn’t count)… Every lift went up significantly!

    And the sides are easier to manage… Just my way of looking at things(believe me if I didn’t join this forum Ida ran Tren by now – and not get what I truly can get out of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tice1212View
    Ur well come brother.. I just like to have everything on hand just in case something happens to u or ur source. Nothing is more distracting to a male physique then having all this muscle but two tits hanging down from gyno. Lmao.

    All looks good except for your deca running it right up until your clearing process(cyp is 18 days – nandrolone Decanate ester is 21 days till pct would start(the day after that) so imo, I’d drop the deca at wk 12 and run cyp up to 14 wks(2wks longer then the deca) so it clears b4 pct starts!

    I also agree you should have everything on hand b4 you even start(imo your ancillaries should be bought first – just in case) get the prami/caber b4 you start – especially running deca for the first time! I’d also up your stane to at least 12.5 ed – split into 2 doses(12 hrs apart) w/a serving of fat/your breakfast or scoop of PB etc)

    Other than that it looks solid! Enjoy! I love nandrolone lol

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