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    Training goals need to be realistic. I think the op wrote up a killer work out. The question is if he can recuperate enough to make it beneficial. If he has a physical job then he is really going to be put to task. For me one muscle group trained once a week is fine…..gear or no gear. Remember, you grow outside of the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SICView
    Somebody on a diffrent forum suggested this, what do you think? I actually like it!

    Its only 8 weeks and it takes sus up to 6 to do its thing
    You have decent amount of prop but I think I would either frontload or backload the prop and acquire more sus.

    • November 5, 2020 at 6:49 pm
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    So you are starting a cycle running that pint oh Hgh and your shoulder is killing you?
    • November 5, 2020 at 4:24 pm
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmbA
    I first noticed my shoulder pain when I playing fetch with my dog but it was very mild and I didn’t gave it any thought. Then started working out more often and had pain when doing shoulder press and had clicking sound. Now I get pain when I’m doing bench and even just doing small movements like readark_sideng for something or putting my hand behind my back to put a belt on, etc. I went to the doc, he said it’s probably not your rotator cuff, just msybe some inflammation, so he prescribed me Meloxicam and I kinda noticed a little less pain but once I start doing dips or go heavy on bench, it comes back just as bad. When I was doing cycle I had no pain whatsoever. I heard Decca helps but hgh is best for fixing injuries.

    I have ran plenty of Hgh and it won’t fix anything that truly needs any type of surgical attention. How is your diet, getting enough good fats? Do you bench wide? A lot of your pain could be caused by what you are doing, more important to find the cause then mask it with meds. It is important for you to really analyze what you are doing. Your diet, technique I’m the gym. Stay away from heavy weight and go into maintenance mode for a bit in order to heal up and make some changes .

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    You would take the adex right up until the start of pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmover
    I hear ya guys. Obviously much has been learned since the 70’s. It was just an interesting find to me, and it appears that you guys haven’t heard of it, and are more prone to stick with what you know/find familiar. I’m not debating the effectiveness of AI’s and SERMS, I think we can all agree those work. I’m just wondering if this works too. More data on the DHT’s role in gyno would certainly be helpful. Now whether I’ll decide to inject proviron and pop a serm while running AI’s……is yet to be seen Haha kidding. Kind of. I’ll just be looking into it further for sure.

    A lot of protocols we follow are from what Kel described and what the top doctors on the field are doing ATM. Not to make light of your research or if there is any credibility in it but it most likely would have become mainstream and currently used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseView
    So run week 2 to 14 at 200iu twice weekly? I’m worried I’m already shut down as they’ve shrunk already. Is this still ok? 200iu high enough bi weekly?

    Thanks

    That should be ok, you are a Tad light but in the ballpark. The less atrophy the better on terms of recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegilbert1986
    whats that armidex that makes you lathergic like that?

    It’s not the type, it’s the amount because it’s a symptom of your e2 crashing.

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    Crossfit equals touch football!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEL1C
    I think I’m going to go for a cut mix. Test p 100 mg, tren 100 mg, masteron 100 mg.

    Gonna stop you in your tracks……mixs suck. Use the individual compounds, that way adjustments are easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >View
    After my first 2 tren cycles I can’t not nut under a min of 20 mins. No joke, no BS

    I was using a mild dose of caber both times. The time just seemed to gradually increase on my first & 2nd cycle.

    Then after coming off, it never went back to normal – before, srsly 5-10mins if I wanted to

    After those two runs, I started using Prami. Nothing – never went back, it’s not bad. But, quite noticeably dif. I can’t see it being anything else since the tren cycle with caber is when this began.

    I had the same experience …..took forever to bust one. I didn’t think much of it at the time and certainly didn’t tie it to the cab.

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    I would just stick with the prescribed SERMS. That protocol sounds like witchcraft!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegilbert1986
    so whats the first sighn of prolactin issues, is there anything that happins or does milk just start squirtin out?

    I have never experienced leaky nips so when I go over 300 mgs with either deca or tren I use caber to be on the safe side . It is true that if you control your e2 you won’t have any issues but my sides tend to creep up on me usually late cycle. If I run my AI at .25 eod I feel fine but I most likely will get some sides late in the cycle ….. Switch my AI to .50 eod and I am tired as shit. It’s your call and you will get opinions in favor of it and those not in favor……..

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    Quote Originally Posted by emercom26
    Nolva prevents oestrogen from binding, thereby preventing the formation of gyno. It is no good if u already have bitch tits. Clomid affects the feedback loop, stimulating your natural t production.

    That’s not totally so…..nov and ralox are both effective Serms in combating gyno but as stated by Kel they take a while to work. I have used nov effectively for two gyno flare ups on cycle and it was a solid month before I started to feel a decrease on lump size and it was probably two months before there wasn’t any trace of a lump.

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    Welcome to the forum! There is a really good thread in the educational stickies by musitiontinite called how to plan and execute a successful first cycle……this will help you out immensely. Once you have looked it over a few times, you can post up your proposed cycle, goals and diet so we can get you on track.
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