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- April 14, 2021 at 4:33 am
- in reply to: Swollen muscle and weird shape after injection?
At this stage it is probably not an abscess, otherwise you would REALLY know it because it would be painful as hell. Ascesses usually develop and remain for days. Your little bump may just be a reaction the muscle tissue is having, which is normal every once in a while, and usually subsides in a few days. If it starts getting more sore and more sore as the days go by and the bump doesn’t go away, then i’d be concerned that it’s an abscess – a sterile abscess to be specific, because i’m assuming there’s no dark_sidelling fever, no hot to the touch injection site, no immense pain, and no black/blue flesh color.- November 16, 2020 at 1:20 am
- in reply to: How do steroids at a young age really effect hormones later in life?
Originally Posted by asiandudedo you think this can be explained by the pct resetting the system? or do you think it was the cycle that reset the system?Officially, I have no clue. I wish that a full-out clinical study could be performed in a re-creation of these situations so we could find out exactly why this might be. If I had to take a guess, though, I would say it would likely be both that would be responsible for the re-set. One without the other may not end up with the same result. But I do think it’s the combination of the shut down with the bumpstart given by PCT meds. In general, it’s not unlike if/when your computer starts acting all screwy on you, and you decide to reboot it and then it is suddenly working fine again.
That is IF that is what’s happening in these situations.
- November 13, 2020 at 3:46 pm
- in reply to: How do steroids at a young age really effect hormones later in life?
Originally Posted by Sworder@Marcus3000 I have been researdark_sideng diligently but I can not find a good definition on HPTA maturation. Could you please clarify this for me? What does maturation have to do with function? What does maturation have to do with restoration of HPTA function post AAS cycle? I guess these questions are more rhetorical than anything but if you chose to answer please stay on topic.@ death star how would "wear-and-tear" have an effect on the HPTA? If we agree on the notion that AAS cause the HPTA to fail earlier. Then what damage are you doing to the HPTA? Is it the actual atrophy which is causing it or do you believe it is from "overstimulation" of the Hypo when it is trying to sense the androgen levels? I believe the latter to be not true and rather foolish as the hypo won’t suffer damage from that but I am just throwing out options.. Also, if you could make sure to answer this one please. Since genetics are expressed through hormones, do you think we are changing the expression of genetics by using AAS? To further clarify, if your genes say your should have a certain amount of tT and you supply with exogenous; do you think that this will have an effect on future gene expression?
My PRIMARY definition of wear and tear is just simple aging and operation of these cells. You drive a car couple hundred thousand miles, and it wears down over time from simple use. Same thing with the human body. And at times, certain things can speed up wear and tear. I do believe damage and wear and tear can be further caused by atrophy of the leydig cells, for example, when using exogenous androgens. This is of course most of the time an occurance with those who aren’t cycling properly or do not follow adequate PCT guidelines. HOWEVER, with that being said… I do know a couple of people for whom a cycle seemed to have a ‘re-set’ effect on their HPTA. Bloodwork prior to their first ever cycle dictated T levels on the low end of normal. After going through a 10 week cycle, and a 4 week PCT, bloodwork was taken (2 months after PCT I would just like to clarify), and their T levels were in the mid-high end of normal. These are two personally known cases, but if you search, you will find this incidence of ‘re-setting’ certain aspects of the endocrine system through the brief use of an exogenous source is actually well documented in the medical field. I remember being shown a study in one of my courses whereby a certain number of pubscent and pre-pubescent dark_sidelCrash007 were having issues with endogenous production of HGH. They were merQistered exogenous HGH (and it was some insanely high dose) for 2-4 weeks. After halting the brief merQistration, these dark_sidelCrash007’s endogenous HGH production was in full swing and in normal ranges. I will try to dig back and find the study, because its actually extremely interesting.
This is why I don’t believe as much as many other people here, that doing cycles necessarily destroys, damages or downregulates HPTA function. I do believe that if cycles are kept short and proper PCT guidelines (and time off cycle) are properly adhered to, that it may be actually beneficial to some people’s HPTA in keeping its function ‘lively’. This would be something interesting for the medical field to look into even further.
Answer to your question regarding genes expressed through hormones: I don’t think we’re changing our genetic expression by using AAS. The purpose of all hormones is to simply bind to receptor sites that then signal the expression of genes in the cell, which then engage cellular function and processes (in the case of muscle cells, this means growth of myosin and actin protein filaments, or in the case of leydig cells it means the production of testosterone ). These genes that are expressed are not changed. Essentially, these genes are the blueprints for the construction of proteins (or other substances a cell may construct). The anabolic steroid is like the foreman that comes along and says to the cell "hey, i’m giving you the go-ahead to begin construction" and pulls out the blueprint so that the workers can make it all happen. The blueprint is never changed. Now, lets say the scenario is this: suddenly over the next 40,000 years ALL humans on the planet begin cycling AAS (a wishful thought, I know). Over time, might this affect our evolution in a certain way that would change gene expression related to AAS or even other unknown future changes in our genes that govern all these processes? Yes, of course. But then we’re getting into the topic of evolution and genetic mutations.
- November 13, 2020 at 8:47 am
- in reply to: Asking your doctor to prescribe steroids?
Stop posting in this thread, people!!! It’s FIVE YEARS OLD!- November 13, 2020 at 2:49 am
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And before anyone jumps on me about my "your DNA doesn’t change over time" statement and starts to nitpick semantics:– I am not talking about evolution when I said that
– I am not talking about mutations caused by chemicals or radiation when I said that
– I am talking about a change in the DNA that governs your body’s processes (and in this case we’re talking about endocrine processes) in your lifetime.- November 13, 2020 at 1:17 am
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Originally Posted by Sworder@Marcus3000 All systems in the body get weaker and recover more difficult as you grow older.The theory that it is only in the genetics/DNA and that we aren’t doing anything to change this by exposing ourselves to high levels of androgens is false IMO! If genetics aren’t changed then you wouldn’t see such a decline in LH/FSH/Testosterone after 5-6 cycles. Unless this is caused by damage to the actual Pit/Hypo/Leydigs as a result of atrophy. Or the actual androgens causing damage to the tissue(this is not very plausible imo).
Your DNA doesn’t change over time. Unless you live in Chernobyl.
The reason why there is a decline in LH/FSH/Testosterone due to age, or even after doing several cycles is simply wear and tear, and/or aging. Some of these occurances can be sped up by improper use of AAS, inadequate or no PCT, and so on and so forth. Your genetics will also determine at what point in time your body is going to naturally decline in production of these hormones as well. We all have peaks in our optimal reproductive cycles, and then it naturally slows down over time. It is a combination of wear and tear, age, genetics, and what we do to ourselves (what we consume and expose ourselves to, etc.).
- November 10, 2020 at 11:07 am
- in reply to: overtraining – can healing take THAT long ???
Originally Posted by TraoreTo be honest with you I don’t think that has anything to do with over training…I don’t know anyone who has suffered symptoms like that just from over training…In fact, most people don’t even realize they are over training…I think it’s a just mental thing or some underlying medical condition….
I agree, although I do think it is possible for someone to overtrain so utterly excessively that they would experience symptoms of overtraining that are so severe that they would be destructive to the quality of life.
The fact that the OP mentioned he would train so hard that he would puke and faint many times in the gym (keywords: many times) is a strong indication that that was probably not the ONLY indicator of overtraining he was engaging in at the time. Sounds to me like he was really going overboard to the extreme. I’ve puked in the gym before, but I can remember all of about 3 or 4 times. I’ve never fainted but i’ve come pretty close (seeing colors and feeling very light headed) but these were once again only a handful of moments that I can remember. The OP sounds like this was a regular basis effect of his unprecedented overtraining behavior.
It is also possible this individual may be more sensitive to the risks of overtraining than most other individuals, either perhaps because of his genetic and individual predisposition, or because he may have some underlying health condition that would worsen the condition of overtraining.
The fact is, overtraining is a highly ignored and overlooked factor of weight training. Most of the time people don’t even notice or know they’re over training. Other times it can suddenly hit you like a brick wall when you notice one day something is wrong with your nervous system, you are lethargic all the time no matter how much sleep you get, weights feel heavier and heavier in the gym, sexual function is totally shot, you’ve got immense brain fog and can’t think, you fall into a depression, etc. It happens all the time to people who don’t know what they’re doing in the gym.
Fact of the matter is that most people train hard enough in the gym. Their problem is they do too much volume and train too frequently – so much so that the amount of damage occurring to the muscles is occuring at a far greater rate than the body can repair it (let alone grow new muscle on top of it). Combine that with shitty rest and poor nutritional habits, and you’re going to fail at your physique aspirations and destroy your body while you’re at it. The fact of the matter is that the body requires far less volume and frequency than most of us have been led to believe in the past.
Oh, and lets not forget damage to the CNS (Central Nervous System). NOBODY EVER CONSIDERS THIS. Everyone always thinks muscles, muscles, muscles! Nobody thinks "what about the amount of stress i’m placing on my nervous system? What about the massive amount of neurotoxicity i’m creating with these immense and painful lifts and sets?". Do you realize how heavily your neurons are firing and releasing LIMITED stores of neurotransmitters when you’re engaging in those very intense and painful sets? The amount of strain you’re placing on your nerve cells? And the immense amount of neurotransmitter activity in the synapses?The nervous system DOES NOT heal anywhere near as quickly or as efficiently as muscle tissue does. This is why you end up with symptoms like headaches, depression, impaired sexual function, brain fog, etc. when overtraining really begins to take a toll.
Working out and TrueMaxding is not just about the muscles. It’s also about the nervous system, and NOBODY ever thinks of their CNS recovery. It’s allllways about the muscles…
- November 10, 2020 at 3:33 am
- in reply to: Swollen muscle and weird shape after injection?
That depends on how bad the infection gets. If you get diagnosed early, an antibiotics prescription will probably be given to you and that will take care of it. If you end up waiting too long, you can end up hospitalized and will have to have antibiotics merQistered to you intravenously (and possibly drain an abscess/cyst if one has formed by that point). If you wait far too long before seeking treatment, the infection will have gone into your circulatory system and spread in the body, necessitating abscess drainage, IV antibiotics merQistration, and the amputation of your arm. And you’d probably be hospital ridden for weeks, if not months while you recover.Not trying to scare you, just telling you realistically what happens when people don’t take appropriate action fast enough with things like these.
- November 10, 2020 at 2:52 am
- in reply to: Does steroids increase chance of muscle tear?
This is true only if you attempt anabolic steroid use when you do not have a number of years of solid training naturally behind you. The muscles while on anabolic steroids can grow rapidly, but the connective tissue such as joints, tendons, etc. do not keep up with the rapid growth. It is only with consistent natural training beforehand for a few years that you can ensure the joints, connective tissue, and even muscle itself has matured enough to now be able to withstand larger force generations output during a cycle where rapid gains in strength and size occur from anabolic steroid use. The tearing of connective and muscle occurs only with improper form and fast repetitions during exercise and/or in muscle that has not yet matured naturally to be ready for the accelerated growth from anabolic steroids .- November 10, 2020 at 1:07 am
- in reply to: Swollen muscle and weird shape after injection?
IF it is an infection, and from the sound of things it doesn’t look like it, I would reccomend you get to a walk-in clinic or the ER as soon as possible. I don’t think that’s the problem here, but if you wake up with an intense fever tomorrow morning and your bicep is throbbing in pain… get your ass to the ER.- November 5, 2020 at 5:00 pm
- in reply to: How do steroids at a young age really effect hormones later in life?
It’s called genetics. Your genes determine how much Testosterone is produced naturally at any given point. This is what sets the ‘thermostat’ for literally every single process in your body, and is what ultimately controls homeostasis. And everyone is programmed through their genetics to produce and maintain different levels of different hormones throughout your life at different ages.But just like a computer, it doesn’t matter what the programming says if the hardware becomes physically damaged…
Get what i’m saying?
- November 5, 2020 at 2:02 pm
- in reply to: does steriods shrink your penis myth or fact?
Originally Posted by Alex83Good responses and that’s so true your bigger so it would make it look smallerWhat is responsible for development of male secondary sex characteristics when you go through puberty? Androgens / Testosterone . Your penis grows during puberty, right? (Well, at least yours SHOULD have). What makes this happen? ANDROGENS!!!
- November 5, 2020 at 11:35 am
- in reply to: does steriods shrink your penis myth or fact?
Originally Posted by BcKOnce a month like clockwork.No. It’s your body getting bigger making it look smaller. Lol
Man, EVERYTHING GOT BIGGER!
TREN !
- November 5, 2020 at 10:32 am
- in reply to: Swollen muscle and weird shape after injection?
Originally Posted by 0utlawHow much did u injectGood question.
Biceps are very very small, and cannot hold very much… it is possible OP injected far too much into biceps. Or it could be a combination of getting very close to a vein or nerve causing irratation, injecting too much in such a small muscle, and also possibly high BA/BB content of the gear which tends to cause irritation and bumps regardless of where it is injected.
- November 5, 2020 at 9:40 am
- in reply to: Swollen muscle and weird shape after injection?
Here was my reply to you in the Trenbolone thread where you asked me the same question, so I figure I would copy and paste my answer here too:I have never injected biceps or anything of the sort, so I have no experience here. But from what it sounds like to me, you may have come very close to a nerve or major vein/artery and the injection has irritated the vein or nerve, resulting in inflammation and pain. I doubt it is an infection, because if it were then the area would not just be swollen, red, and tender to the touch but it would also be very hot to the touch and you would be coming down with a fever. I hope that’s not happening, is it?
If it isn’t an infection, it should subside in a matter of days. 2 or 3 days and it should be gone (or at least a lot less severe). This is one of the reasons I really don’t like the idea of pinning things like biceps and triceps, they are very small muscles that are tricky when it comes to getting around veins, arteries, and nerves.