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Originally Posted by  rubsd

So they both aren’t dry gainers, expensive, and commonly faked?

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I’ve never gotten fake Primo or Var. The whole fake nonsense is a bunch of parroted fear spreading from people who aren’t intelligent enough to research ahead of time on a lab.

People also take Primo expecting the same results as when they were on Test Deca Dbol or Test Tren Mast. That’s why people think it’s fake because they don’t understand the compound to begin with.

If Anavar was faked by UGL as much as what’s parroted then every other woman would be walking around with a miBamb penis clit, a beard trimmer, and a voice deeper than the grand canyon.

If you take a few minutes to read the profiles of each compound you will see why they are different.

Originally Posted by TheNewGuyHere

The fact of the matter is, that I ultimately will make my own decision regarding the use of steroids whether some users agree or disagree with cycling at my age. I truly am open to your constructive criticism and do appreciate it and I will weigh the advice i receive accordingly. After all, most of you have many many years of experience and knowledge on me, I am smart enough to realize this. I do not want to damage my body permanently, and that is a big concern and may be the reason I do not cycle for another 4-5 years like Marcus said. However, just in case I do decide to cycle and realize the good outweighs the bad, I would like to have accurate information and a solid cycle / knowledge at my disposal.

With that being said, I would like help constructing this cycle using test cypionate if the pyarimid technique is frowned upon.
Thank you.

Don’t be stubborn. Go to google images and search erectile dysfunction or testicular hypertrophy. THAT IS WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU IF YOU DO STEROIDS. Get the picture ? Testosterone isn’t even the only good steroid , there are tons of options. Do you even know what Test-C is, or did some friend just tell you take it because he doesn’t know about Equipose, Anavar , or other juice?

You don’t even know what the compounds are made up of. I’m a Biomed student, only 19 and I’ve SEEN steroid-esque compounds being made for my biochem classes, and I still thought about juicing. Do yourself the favor, listen to these people, be independent
and research and don’t take steroids.

I guarantee your diet is the problem.

Originally Posted by OldBoy

side note – I’ve got a guy I’ve been helping for over a year . he consistently runs very LOW hemoglobin/hematorcrit . so low they do not let him donate (but he doesn’t need to donate anyhow) . even running Deca and Anadrol his hemo does not seem to elevate like it should .. coincidently , this same guy struggles big time to add any size , even a couple pounds. even running 2 grams of ‘bulking’ gear per week and 6000 cals a day he barely can put on any size (his training is on point).

if I was to guess. if he had the opposite effect and had too high of hemo, rather then too low , and the drugs worked like they were supposed to at increasing his RBC ,, then I bet he would be putting on size much more easily .

again, increasing RBC is NOT a negative side effect of AAS , its a positive side effect and what a lot of these drugs are designed/used for

I think the general public (and most gym rats) are conditioned to chase a number without taking a step back to look at the context. I have to get above 80% in school to get an "A" in order to be successful (most billionaires are B/C students). I have to get X bloodwork result within Y-Z range.

It doesn’t help that lab reference ranges have become more and more narrow as they slowly hack off each side of the bell curve. The more narrow a reference range is, the easier it is for a doctor to "diagnose" a condition and push the pharma agenda.

Originally Posted by Evil

Seriously? I thought Test E could be detected 3 months out, maybe 5 months max while Test P only 1 month? How do Masteron and Anavar fare while we are here?
Are there news tests out or something I should know about?
( I am no Usain Bolt so I didn’t expect any extrordinary tests, just a possible random one)

you will be popped for literally any Performance Enhancing Drug use except for a few suspension/no ester products. You cannot use PEDs expect to pass clean.

The athletes that are passing clean but actually are not either

(1) Are using masking drugs not known to the public, OR
(2) Using drugs not being tested for yet (example = Cardarine went untested for a long time until it became mainstream like gear)

Everyone metabolizes the PEDs differently and it’s impossible to know how your body reacts to metabolites. This is why the old detection times were based off ranges (X to Y months).

In any case, even if we said doing a Test E cycle for the next 12 weeks was fine, that cycle will have zero impact on the contest.

Aromasin can impact lipids so that could be causing it.

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

Sorry, but that has no relevance to my question.

It was relevant because redz was looking out for your best interests. tons of people have come over the years trying to claim they don’t need Test.

You didn’t include much information in your original post or talk about Testosterone – hence the assumption of the stereotype.