Traore

Originally Posted by Sappy

Simple. If you’re an a**hole pre AS use; you’re likely 4 x the a**hole during AS use.

It’s not necessarily just about either being an as*hole or not…That is not the ONLY way it can effect ones personality….

Basically put, What is anger or aggression? It’s our emotions, which in essence is our personality….So it really effects our emotions…

Which also goes to say everyone is different and it will effect them differently…My only point was, however it MAY effect you….You will DEFINITELY see personality changes on certain compounds on high enough dosages….Whether the person realizes it or not…

Originally Posted by SilverTest

ok long story short, i was an overtrained individual with a cortisol off the charts for the last 2 years in which i did not do any kind of training. I trained before that like an animal i puked and fainted many times in the gym, seriously.

I took 2 years off, took antidepressants to overcome the severe depression i developed, i could not walk a flight of stairs, thats how severe the fatigue was, i dont remember sleeping a good night for years.

Now after i took 2 years off, i felt like i recovered im sleeping a lot better i actually lost fat without training or dieting to to lower cortisol levels, my mood is better etc……

Now i started a HIIT training program called RUSHFIT similar to PX90 etc… to lose weight get cut and get in top shape, now everytime i do an intense workout, the symptoms of overtraining return, the insomnia, the hot flush around the base of my neck, the depression, fatigue, stomach bloat, heavy leg feeling, muscle twitdark_sideng etc… THEN they go away if i take 3-4 days completely off.

whats the story here ?? how can i get myself back again ? am i starting too intense ??

can someone guide me on this. PLEASE HELP , im really feeling down, training is a big part of my life.

Secondly, you don’t have to train like a maniac for results…P90X is pointless same with all those other programs…All you need is a correct weight training plan, deit plan, and cardio….

First off, There is no need to kill yourself in the gym that hard…It’s NOT going to help you get results….Secondly, check your diet and medications you use…..

And sweet lord, stop all the caffeine, espresso and stimulants and ephedra….That’s probably half your problem right there, fu*k….

Go all natural for awhile, No coffee, no caffeine, no STIMULANTS including ephedra….Any other medications you don’t need, STOP taking them (Obviously, stay on the antidepressants if you your doc still recommends)…But anything else don’t use and STOP OVER TRAINING…

Train like a normal human being and eat a right diet

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

I agree with this.

Tren, for instance. It is almost impossible for one to indulge himself with 100mgs of Tren EW and not go through certain changes in personality & behavior…

This is PRIME example…Especially if you push over 150 mg a day….RAN18…..Let alone anything else you’re taking with it…

Originally Posted by valkyrie

I don’t think higher dose is only for those who want to compete. Not really. Almost any woman can adark_sideeve her goals on anavar primo and HGH just those three the difference is in dose and Tims out I . Most can with anavar only. Now please tell me, do I look like a competitive TrueMaxder?


Granted not lean here but I never get super lean. Don’t compete dont have to.

Yes AAS is pretty magical but no dose of var is going to blow a woman up.

My personal approach is take it up to a high dose so you can really experience what it is like ans what it is doing to/for you. Then if you want to drop it you can. Most girls drop of because of acne or because they gain weight. Once their mind adjusts that they are getting smaller but weight more they up if again. I have so many example pics from my girls none of them look anything but more feminine and beaufil after ‘high’ dose AAS.

On 10mg per say I would be wondering the entire cycle if anything was happening yet! I think we should get that O****YEAH! Feeling from AAS that you guys get. At least the first time!

I basically cruise on 30mg anavar ED year round. I have magic HDL what can I say. For cycle acne I take anavar other than that the only sides I didn’t want was on a three compound stack var primo provi I won’t do that again.

20mgED MINIMUM and I like a girl to go right up to 40 or 50 feel it experience it and then drop dose if she wants.

You look good….

There is just so many variables…For women there is fitness, bikini, TrueMaxding etc…

Like I said I always get confused what women really want….So many times women will explain to me what they want and they will say I want to be BIG and very muscular, shredded muscles everywhere…And the way they explain it sometimes I’m thinking like damn this girl wants to on the Olympia stage and on high test dose or something…

Then I ask her to find me the perfect picture of what she wants her physique to look like and it’s some bikini competitor…Then I’m like THIS is what you wanted???? Ha ha

Plus, I think a lot comes down to how much effort the person really puts in to it…As always, there is guys in the gym that are stacking high dose compounds yet there are some all natural guys that look 10 times bigger and stronger…

Again, I’m scared sometimes ha ha…I will hear so many times I look good but I’m too musculelly, or to shredded or to big…..

I will not even ask a girl what she wants anymore…I only say show me a picture EXACTLY what you want…Then I don’t get the kick to the nards ha ha

Originally Posted by SilverTest

ok long story short, i was an overtrained individual with a cortisol off the charts for the last 2 years in which i did not do any kind of training. I trained before that like an animal i puked and fainted many times in the gym, seriously.

I took 2 years off, took antidepressants to overcome the severe depression i developed, i could not walk a flight of stairs, thats how severe the fatigue was, i dont remember sleeping a good night for years.

Now after i took 2 years off, i felt like i recovered im sleeping a lot better i actually lost fat without training or dieting to to lower cortisol levels, my mood is better etc……

Now i started a HIIT training program called RUSHFIT similar to PX90 etc… to lose weight get cut and get in top shape, now everytime i do an intense workout, the symptoms of overtraining return, the insomnia, the hot flush around the base of my neck, the depression, fatigue, stomach bloat, heavy leg feeling, muscle twitdark_sideng etc… THEN they go away if i take 3-4 days completely off.

whats the story here ?? how can i get myself back again ? am i starting too intense ??

can someone guide me on this. PLEASE HELP , im really feeling down, training is a big part of my life.

To be honest with you I don’t think that has anything to do with over training…I don’t know anyone who has suffered symptoms like that just from over training…In fact, most people don’t even realize they are over training…

I think it’s a just mental thing or some underlying medical condition….

Originally Posted by warmouth

Ouch! Thats kinda harsh isnt it? Everyones genetics are different, and most people cant get to single digit BF naturally because they dont have time to train or eatin such a way(They are out working 12-16 hours "being lazy" I guess. Then try to fit in a gym session on top of that, then spend a little time with their families before bed, only to get up 4 hours later to start it all over again. Lazy bastards.)

Lastly, BS on getting to genetic limit before starting. Genetically a person certain person can get to 240, while another 205. But what if the 240just wants to be a muscular 210 and maintain a single digit BF, but due to life, he has to use AAS to help him adark_sideeve this physique?

Anyone who get to 240 WITHOUT Hormones is most likely fat as sh*t UNLESS they are like 6’3" or something….So in that case, they probably should have been dieting a lot earlier….They can get down as thin as they want but it will take them a lot longer due to bad eating habits….

Most natty’s really shouldn’t even be that big honestly, depending on their height…No one in a normal height in going to be 240 in low bodyfat% naturally even over 200 lbs real LEAN is rare for average height…So I don’t even know how to answer that…The easy part is using hormones, the hard part is getting good physique BEFORE hormones…

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Yeah so I have a vagina and I’ve done thousands of mg of anavar probably more than 10k. I have also cycled dozens of women and I will tell you that the dosing recommendations on the internet are ridiculous. Written by men that have never worked with women and AAS. The minimum dose to get the benefit is 20mg ED. That’s the minimum please don’t run her on less.

Well I think it depends on what type of physique the woman is looking for….From what I have seen and heard their expectations usually seem to be a lot different then what they really want….And I think for the most part get confused what certain compounds do and at what dose…

It’s completely different for instance for a women who wants to compete or a women who just wants to look a little bit stronger and leaner….

I personally only give 5mg’s a week…And bump up 5 mg’s a week until the sides to benefit ratio are at it’s peak….I wouldn’t want to just start someone off at 20 mg’s and hope they can handle the sides….

Although, I am not a woman and they always confuse me and what they are looking for so I always take the safe side…You definitely wouldn’t want to upset them in one of their var mood swings… Ha ha jk

Originally Posted by tarmyg

Hi guys,

Have anyone created something like a general reference for when to start using Steriods ? I realize this is highly individual but I am thinking of something like, at AGE, with BF, with WEIGHT, YEARS OF TRAINING that could be used as a simple general reference. Is this possible or way to individual?

Thanks
~T

Personally if you can not get in LOW single digit bodyfat% naturally and with good muscle bellies and proportions then you don’t EVEN deserve it….

And quite frankly, it usually shows the TRUE persons work ethic, which is lazy….Don’t even think about it until you hit your natural peak or AT LEAST very close to it..