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Originally Posted by saucerking

Well I wrote a lot about it in my other thread if you want to see it:

Don’t know what to tell you can’t see how you don’t have steady blood levels with legit test e and everybody has touched on everything else..like someone said depression is in your head iam sure it can be aggravated by hormones..you seem prone to it regardless like I said earlier the best advice I can offer is get off get your mind right reevaluate and cycle again someday when your in a better place mentally..good luck though

Originally Posted by saucerking

No this is worse than "moody". And this in the middle of my cycle. Not coming off or on.

I just feel like absolute shit. I don’t want to do anything. I’m really trying hard not to end my cycle but this depression is just too strong and getting the best out of me. I’ve never felt like this before in my life. I still can’t figure out what it is.

Cut your losses and quit..there is much more important things than muscles (not many) but your realationships your mental health and happiness..quit, get your head on straight and try again if you get to the point you feel mentally ready..forgive me if you have posted it somewhere but what’s your current cycle and doses?maybe there’s something you could change to alieviate your depression and sides?

Originally Posted by saucerking

No it wasn’t bunk gear cause I took a blood test.

My total test was like 3400, free test >50, and e2 sensitive was 50.2.

This was taken at week 6. So maybe its the estrogen idk. I was taking an Ai. .25g eod. I bumped it up to .5 eod but still feel the about the same.

I get really moody coming on or off cycle more so then after my blood levels are steady try to keep them as steady as possible..

Originally Posted by don trawolta

Who says you can’t run an orals only cycle?
Man, that’s all we had back in the day!
My first cycle was dbol only and worked like a champ.
OP: orals aren’t the most healthy option but you sure as hell can do it. If you want to run dbol for 6 weeks you should be fine. Do a low dose like 25mg. Just do a PCT and take some milk thistle on cycle.
I’ve done every kinda of cycle ever when I started taking Steriods there was no info
Anavar is milder and won’t give you the same results but is much safer if that is a concern.
Stay away from prohormones but that’s just my opinion.

I’ve done some oral only cycles in the day when there was only 2400 baud modems no resources for reaseardark_sideng about Steriods except the anabolics books and a few random magazine articles..even though sometimes it seems that everyone on here "parrots" the same info over and over when a lot of the ppl prob don’t really know what they are talking about..the truth of the matter imo ime of running different cycles for 15+ years is that the general concensous on this board and most others on how to run Steriods is correct..oral only cycles will suppress you without the gains will leave you with more sides from the unstable blood levels and will leave you with sexual side effects..not trying to put you down just my opinion

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Yeah, I had some free time and free rain of the library when I was in grad school so I would jump onto the chem and medical journal databases and look up a lot of info on all the different compounds. All these drugs were designed for a purpose. T-bol for athletes, deca for burn victims and bone mineral loss, sustason for muscle wasting ext.
There is tons of info floating around on the medical journals about it all. Plus having a background in Chemisty. Knowing how binding affinity works as far as chemical agents are concerned shaped my philosophy on stacking and how it’s probably not as productive. For example a standard 500mg T and 500mg deca cycle is no more better for my gains than just running 400mg of deca alone, plus I get virtually no sides.

I think the concept of synergy is really more a function of total androgens used not their additive effect to each other. I could be terribly wrong on this, but so far, I have never seen a compelling piece of evidence/s to sway me otherwise.

So not to hijack but when you run these deca only cycles @what dose do you run?just curious?

Originally Posted by Aleksmoralis

So pin 100 mg ed or 200 eod?

Doesn’t matter it’s the same either way..if it’s more convenient to do 200mg eod than go that way..that is if your comfortable with 700mg a week if your fine with 500 150 mg eod will suffice I don’t wanna seem like iam pushing higher doses

Originally Posted by Silabolin

That must be because u dont eat enough. They say its a myth that tren burns fat. I dont think so. Whem im running tren i feel warm inside and i feel my methabolism increases. A lot more than any other aas. I guess its kind of semiDNP.
But it also takes away sleep and hunger. Making eating harder.
Not googleinfo. Just from personall ex periences.

It most def raises my metabolism..try to cut your caloric or carb intake on tren, it hurts.I have to eat complex carbs before bed on tren or I wake up with such hunger pains I can’t go back to sleep .