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  • I think he’s just talking about oral steroids . Tablets = pills.

    They pulled my one friend over and found vials in his vehicle. Took him to the station and measured his arms. They only measured 15” so they got him on a small arms charge. Never get caught with vials and small arms.
    Damn it, I wanted to use EQ to cut. My appetite is already too big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nik View
    What kind of dosages are you talking that you can manage before rbc issues?

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    It’s not just the dose. I was on 750 mg before when I started feeling lethargic and around the 1.5-2 month mark.

    I was also on 200 mg/week when I donated and they said my hematocrit was pretty high.

    So it’s a combination of dose and duration on.

    There is no way to know because you may be a hyper responder, a non-responder, or anywhere in between. If you are near your genetic potential, gains will likely be less than they would be if you were further away from your genetic potential. I would say if you gained 10 – 15 lbs, that would be good.
    Right now I’m not on cycle and just running 125 mg/week test E + 500 iu of HCG . I lost about 8 lbs in 2 months of off and on dieting. The past two weeks I saw the most results… here is what I do: Everything is salad based (romaine lettuce to be exact). I rotate the meats. I’ll buy the dark_sidecken breast and make like 3-4 lbs at once. Chop it up and cook it. Add a bunch of dressing/sauce after it is halfway cooked and let it simmer. I eat it cold on top of the salad and it tastes great (no rubbery texture and weird flavor). Other days I do very lean ground beef with taco seasoning for flavor. The rest I use cans of tuna (usually at night). I eat this 3-4 times a day – the only meal I don’t eat it on is breakfast. I use no bread except one slice with my eggs and turkey bacon in the morning. 1 egg + 2 egg white equivalents (I get the carton egg whites), and 2 slices of turkey bacon/low sodium. The only extra carbs I eat are the toppings: Bambutons or wonton strips/ crispy onions. I don’t use low-fat dressing cause it tastes like shit. I get the regular kind. If you work out, 50 calories extra won’t kill you.

    I haven’t lost strength or size, but I look more defined and have a better v-taper. Good luck with your diet!

    Never ran tren , but you say you are running other compounds as well… could it be water retention? Or like Redz mentioned, you may have reached a plateau. The body doesn’t want to keep losing weight. 1.5 lbs per week isn’t a realistic long term weight loss plan. I guarantee if you stopped dieting for a week and just ate sensibly (with no carbs before bed), you would lose more weight the second week when you get back on the diet. Make it a long term plan and not a quick fix.

    I started a low dose cycle/ cruise the other day with Test, Deca , and EQ all at 150mg/week, so 450 total.

    EQ, as already mentioned, is definitely not for size. For me, it makes me harder and more vascular, but even at 750 mg/week I didn’t really put on any mass… just made my current weight look a little better.

    I’m on 500 mg of test and 750 of EQ and the only positive effect from this cycle so far is increased cardiovascular endurance and a little more strength. I’ve been moving into my new place and climbing up and down the stairs with heavy boxes with no problem. As for lifting, I don’t find much of an increase in endurance, however.

    When I was on 800 mg of just test, I feel my cardio was worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by  rubsdView
    got ya but let me rephrase the question. If you ran a PCT with just Clomid and Nolva and you didnt recover how you would like. Would adding in some HCG at the end increase test levels thus cause gains simply by bringing your natural levels back up?

    That’s a complicated question because we don’t know how badly your testicles were shut down vs the inhibited secretion of LH from your pituitary. Primary hypogonadism is a physical problem with the testes not producing enough test. Secondary hypogonadism is problem with the secretion of LH/FSH in the pituitary that triggers the production of test in the testes. Either can present the same symptoms of lower testosterone . If you have primary hypogonadism with normal LH/FSH secretion, then you can take all the HCG in the world and it won’t make a difference. If you have secondary hypogonadism, then taking HCG will further suppress your brain from creating LH (and consequently testosterone). If you have a little of both, HCG may stimulate the testes to produce more test, but at the same time will be suppressing the natural production of LH, which will be down-regulated until you discontinue HCG. At that point your pituitary will need to recover.

    It’s a question of what needs to recover more, and which takes longer to recover, the testes or the pituitary? I’m not sure I know the answer to that or if there is a standard answer.

    Personally, trying to H10 a life of on cycle/off cycle while coming completely off of steroids was not worth it for me, so I opted to wait until I got on permanently (blast/cruise/trt).

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    Ah, it’s good to know that Deca can be worse than EQ. It’s strange, and it may be in my head, but I noticed that before I dropped the EQ, my arms were much veinier. EQ makes my arms look crazy. Deca has made me thick all over, but I’m not getting as veiny.

    I’m still ok with my decision of dropping EQ, because, well, I didn’t want to start a fresh bottle this late into the cycle, and if I’m going to be raising my RBCs up anyway, I might as well get some size with it.

    I may be donating on the 29th if I don’t get there too late again.

    Nope. HCG stimulates your testicles to produce testosterone , so you can take a crapload of HCG but you are limited by how much test your own body can produce. I’m not sure if studies were done on long-term high doses. Either way, you’d be suppressing LH, so when you’d come off HCG, it would be the same thing as coming off a cycle essentially, and your body would go into testosterone deficiency at that point. Might as well use actual test.

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