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    In addition to PCT, there should also be a PCP (Pre-cycle Prep). A proper PCP would take a good 4-6 years of learning how to properly train with time spent transforming your body. Once that PCP is complete, you are close to your genetic and experience potential. At that point, your age becomes the next consideration before deciding when to start your first cycle.
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    Hey fellas! I’m back and ready to start my second cycle after a 6 month hiatus. I will be getting my pre-cycle weight and some posing pics. I’ll be starting a new thread, but i want to run some ideas aBambss and get some input so i can put together a good cycle.
    Here’s what i currently have available:

    PCT Supplies: 2 cycles worth of Tamoxifen , Clomid and HCG

    Steroids :
    Test: 4 vials of Test Enth and 1 vial of Testo-D (Cypionate /Propionate /DHEA)

    Other anabolics:
    1 1/2 vials Masteron Prop.
    2 vials Masteron Enth.
    50x10mg tabs Superdrol
    50x50mg Anadrol
    80x10mg Anavar .
    12 mg CJC 1295-DAC

    So, I have 2 cycles worth, some of it being leftovers from my first cycle. I’m wondering what i should pick out of all this to run my second cycle. I plan on starting next week. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devastatorView
    I have never tried it, but that was a question i have been wanting to ask people. Which is better?

    I finally got legit CJC. going to use 5 2ml bottles until i cycle. Then i got 10 of ’em for the next cycle. Got the gear and PCT for 2 more cycles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilahView
    Why not just run MK-677?

    I have never tried it, but that was a question i have been wanting to ask people. Which is better?

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    I can tell you right now that PSL is wack for sending me that garbage with a CJC-1295 DAC label. Whatever that is, it’s not legit. I cant see why anyone would go through all that effort to make bunk product when they know people won’t come back a second time.
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    I can tell you guys right now, that the CJC 1295 is bunk shit. It is not fully dissolving in the bac water that came with it.

    I did not feel the hot head rush that i felt when i used the one i got from my original source who has legit gear. This kind of nonsense is so predatory.

    I’m guessing the clomid I believe is legit because it gave me a headache and i started getting mild depression right when i started taking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max PayneView
    Wait awhile after pct has cleared ur system otherwise u will get a false result

    Good to know, thanks. 50 pills of 50 mg Clomid just arrived, as well as 10 2 ml vials of CJC-1295 DAC, which I will use twice a week for 5 weeks (I think that’s a good dose??).

    I am 3 weeks into pct, so i’m assuming I should just add in the clomid for the rest of my pct, which would be for 3 more weeks.

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    Omg, it finally arrived and I’m 3 weeks in to PCT. I will order early next time, but yeah, I will be getting my blood checked as soon as I’m done with the PCT for sure and I will post the results so you guys can see.
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    I’m going to be using 10 2mg vials of CJC 1295 DAC if my order comes through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilahView
    OP, if memory serves sustanon is 3 weeks after your last injection. I don’t think your PCT is that far off.

    Frankly, I can’t handle clomid and have PCT’d on a similar course as you have laid out.

    It’s been 6 years since I’ve had to PCT so I’m hesitating to say you’re fine, because with time comes knowledge. I think you’re on the right track and I would just make sure to time it correctly after your last shot and run bloods to ensure you’re up and running again. If I remember this is your first cycle and it wasn’t heavy, I think you’ll bounce back just fine. Others will dark_sideme in soon enough. Maybe fucking Captain Jack Off will come back and throw more shade or knowledge

    Just an update for you all. I completed my first two weeks of PCT, with 4 weeks to go. I have dropped from 228 lbs (which i was weighing consistently for the last 3-4 weeks of my cycle) down to 215-218 lbs, which I have weighed for the past 2 weeks. It sucks to lose that much weight, but before this first cycle, i had never weighed more than 208 in my life and I was usually weighing around 205 lbs or less, so i I am up 10 lbs.

    My clomid never came, so I am only on tamoxifen and hcg . If it ever arrives, i will just keep it for the next PCT because i am FOR SURE cycling again. My balls are probably bigger than they’ve ever been in my life, so i know that hcg is working.

    I have lost muscular strength and endurance. My muscles are still a lot bigger, my clothes still barely fit me anymore and i still cannot wear any of my dress pants. My joint pain has increased a bit, but it seems to be just back to it’s normal range.

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    This is the PCT protocol I just found:

    Wks 1-2: HCG – 500iu/EoD, Nolvadex – 40mg daily
    Wks 2-6: Nolvadex only– 20mg daily

    Does this protocol make sense? I will be starting the PCT tonight. I am still waiting on the clomid unfortunately and do not know when it will arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    big difference, not "redundant" at all (otherwise HCG with Clomid wouldn’t be prescribed together by doctors). HCG mimics LH and thus directly stimulates the testes ,, Clomid on the other hand works on the brain (not the testes) as a selective estrogen receptor modulator to get the pituitary to produce actual LH itself. in order to restart your HPTA you need your brain to begin producing LH and FSH. ,, HCG does not do that at all. it has no effect on the brain, only the testes

    I’m pretty sure i’m getting that clomid. I should also be getting CJC-1295 with DAC. It is a GHRP. I used a little at the beginning of my cycle. I plan on using this while off cycle to try to maintain as much of my gains as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    big difference, not "redundant" at all (otherwise HCG with Clomid wouldn’t be prescribed together by doctors). HCG mimics LH and thus directly stimulates the testes ,, Clomid on the other hand works on the brain (not the testes) as a selective estrogen receptor modulator to get the pituitary to produce actual LH itself . in order to restart your HPTA you need your brain to begin producing LH and FSH. ,, HCG does not do that at all. it has no effect on the brain, only the testes

    Thank you for explaining this! I am on a mission now. Lol.

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    Okay fellas, I talked to my friend who told me that clomid is redundant when using HCG in PCT, but this person has been cruising and blasting for over 8 years and obviously doesn’t care about PCT and maybe has some outdated information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix7View
    TRT is far from a death sentence for fertility. There’s a running joke in the HRT world about what you call guys who try to use test as birth control: “dad”.

    I have heard Greg Douccette mention this and I have also been told this by the person who turned me on to cycling. This person told me that there are TrueMaxders who impregnate their women while blasting or cruising and said their kids are strong and healthy. Doucette said he gets tested and is told that he’s got swimmers, even with his half sized balls.

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