VUBlack

According to my eyes-on reading expertise, that is exactly correct. In addition, it is like an insurance policy for you too, as if it happened so due to reasons beyond your control you would need to step off of cruising you should recover at least to a minimal extent and begin to produce your own test with minimal efforts and feel less of a yo-yo in such event, plus you keep your "package" at a complete aesthetic look if that concerns you, and things do happen and plans change for people, like you may not plan to come off for 3+ years now as of today, but maybe something will make you come off 1 year later, and if you were merQistering hcg during all this time, the recovery should be speedy and not harsh on your body nor physically nor mentally vs where if you didn’t take hcg

I am not saying Im 150% correct and I do remain open to corrections from VET’s on here on this matter, but I just hope I give some useful info where I can and Im happy if it helps. Whatever facts you gather, I recommend always add some research of your own to back whatever you read or hear anywhere, including on the boards like this, a good fail-safe too

haha thats the spirit! keep it rockin man, HCG all the way

I havent been checking my prolactin lately during bloods, but I did check my bloods few months before and I have decided to come off of the vitex weeks before the tests and my prolactin shooted up beyond the upper range limit, so since month ago Im back on it but it kinda makes me feel more emotional I have noticed, and while not on it I would be more calm and more in a logical-thinking and being state, just something I noticed. I take 4 pills in the morning.

Good to hear good news my man! Im glad and somewhat not surprised that the VITEX was doing its work lowering prolactin for you, as I can only assume I felt better while on it than vs. when I was off of it, although I was giving alot thought it may have been a placebo and what not but yet my recent bloods of few weeks ago indicated my prolactin being over the top range limit and I was just almost 2 months off of the VITEX. I did felt different without VITEX but it wasnt neceserily bad different, and well, I’ve been giving a great flood of all other sound nutrients and vitamins to my system for the last half year thinking I may be deficient in some of not most of whatever there could have been to cripple the endocrine system, I just wasnt training as hard or frequent in the past half year and yet my Testosterone markers came in a little lower than when it was last checked in 2015 July despite my efforts to flourish my body with all the good and holy goods, so now I will be giving bloods repeatedly in my own clinic tomorrow morning and will try to chase up the reason why am I so on the borderline with most of my blood markers, and even my E2 estradiol was under the limit-low, ~25% lower than it should be… I guess makes sense… Low total test, low free test, hence not much test to spare to convert to Estrogen… well I dont know… maybe my thyroid is not up to par, so doc will tell some weeks later after bloods tomorrow.

Your journey at your age is great example of well going progress you have so far, I just try not to compare myself being almost 50years younger yet with similar issues I got to get myself fixed to reach your age with the smile too

I was thinking if high prolactin I had was not caused by using VITEX before, where it was lowered to some extent or maybe severely, and when I have discontinued VITEX my body had rebound to whatever it could and just went out of control and went little over the limit but I could not tell, I havent followed all this with all scientific studies nor I have time and efforts to spare to find this out, so I guess its something else is wrong with me, but here were about you, and Im glad youre well and ok!

Well, some people have not only good, but strong genetics that doesnt wear out as quick I guess and so is the example of your wife I got to say, some great numbers and especial all natural, its just real good to know such things, I being in your place having person such as her besides, would encourage her not to do any compound being in such great physical shape, it may give little extra for the short run but may have some nasty consequences that will change alot things for her in the long run… having something great makes us want to have even greater, without realizing how fragile the walking line is, but that’s just me and that is just an advice and its worth only exactly how much it cost, so, im just saying, my 02cent’s

Hope You’ll be well, and keep on doing what brings good results and good benefit to you, without falling off the path of course

yes, but excess protein turned in to fat then later in to glucose, I still dont know enough, however, there are both sides of every equation, everything can be counteracted with something

to my knowledge proteins in body are converted to glucose so does carbs for that same reason, be readily available as energy source…?

Well, how about your iron/Vit-A/B12/zinc/magnesium/ supplementation? Also how is your diet? Ever tried ketogenic/low carb diet? Higher-carb/Sugars diet could be culprit raising estrogen levels too

PS: By any chance, are you mega-dosing Vitamin C??

I have bought these exactly there as part of my late vit’s and minerals stack:

IRON: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291619324320

there’s lots more but these are one of most contibuting to me I feel

these are nothing else but exactly what I’ve been getting.

So yea, if this exact type of VITEX, I would suggest to take it like a straight shot of 4 pills with some water about hour before bed on empty stomach and watch how you feel, I guess within a week or two you should start feeling better from this alone. I did alot of reading regards VITEX and I pulled so many various feedbacks of which most pages stated that in women it lowers T raises E so in other words works as an equalizer, and in men in higher dosages it works in an opposite direction such as lowering E and raising T, which I could say at least feels like it. I didnt notice much if any difference in sleep quality but like I said, libido did go up pretty OK and was less moody and hair growth has improved, all this better vitality I could say may be due to this, and if its placebo, Im also happy as I feel better while taking it vs. than when I’m not.

One pack of vitex lasts 25days if taken 4 a day, which I calculated out to be the about optimal dose for men. If you take lower dose you may not get benefits at all. I am open to corrections or suggestions if you feel I am dosing it too low or maybe you found some other info regarding this thing, but so far I liked it.

PS, at first I took 2 tablets for about 2 weeks daily, felt nothing, or if I did it was minor, then took 3tablets for a week already with better feel of well being, and then upped to 4 a day which I found optimal. All I can say worth trying, works for me If you dont expect it to work or you dont feel anything in first few weeks , just try stick to the regimen of lets say 4 tablets a day and get yourself few packs of these so you can try it for few months and see what happens

I wish you best luck with it man!