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    I tried it for the first time last summer, maximum dose reached 80 mcg.
    I went from a 13% to about 11% of bodyfat without changing diet and without losing lean body mass.
    No side effects, I split the doses into 4 (20-20-20-20) starting from early morning to the last dose within 14 pm.
    No problem to sleep at night, no problem of hand tremors, or otherwise.
    Probably the dose was well tolerated and it was effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3View
    Good call TS! Enjoy!

    I will inform you about the results and impressions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3View
    You won’t want to take oral winny for no more than 8wks total – so backload it the last 8 wks(and that’s pushing it imo) on duration

    Absolutely, I will take winstrol for six weeks maximum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3View
    Here’s the article long but interesting — also NAC, imho, should be taken for liver support even when using injectables(oils)… liv-52 is ok too but I’d add in NAC as well…

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    Winstrol – Oral versus Injectable (More Different Than You Think!)
    June 1, 2006 By Anthony Roberts 2 Comments

    I tend to shy away from straight “information” articles- in other words, I’ve never written the “How Androgens Work” article, because I’ve read it several times by several authors, and I really have nothing to add. Gene Transcription and Androgen Receptor Action has been written about over, and over, ad nauseum. All of the articles I’ve read on the topic are well written and well- they’re all the same. Don’t get me wrong, all of the articles which discuss the topic are very informative, but when you’re done reading them, you don’t really have anything you can “use” in your next cycle.

    And I’m sure you know the difference between orals and injectables, but do yourself a favor and read this article, because I’m going to explain some things in here that you can use in your next cycle. Actually, I’m going to explain how you can use Winstrol (Stanozolol ) as either an oral or injectable, and get a very different set of effects from the same drug- depending on which route of merQistration you choose to utilize.

    First, lets go over the basics of Winstrol, so we’re all on the same page here.

    Winstrol is a steroid derived from the base structure of Dihydrotestosterone (DHT). DHT is just testosterone which has been 5alpha-reduced, meaning it has had the c4-5 double bond removed by two hydrogen atoms. This is very interesting from a chemical/biological standpoint. Once this bond is removed, testosterone has become DHT, and DHT is the body’s most potent androgen. DHT has a slew of beneficial effects which are more pronounced than the hormone it’s created out of. DHT is able to increase androgen receptor proliferation for almost 24 full hours (1) DHT also has profound effects on the Central Nervous System (CNS), and this is why we often see profoundly increased aggression with athletes who are using DHT derivatives such as Masteron (which has a deceivingly low anabolic and androgenic rating). As an added benefit, DHT can not aromatize (convert via the aromatase enzyme) into estrogen. It’s also noteworthy that the injectable version of Winstrol is actually the same exact thing as the oral- it’s just miBambnized Stanozolol powder suspended in water (or sometimes oil).

    So what we have in Winstrol is DHT with two modifications- an added c17 methylation, and a very weird “pyrazol” group. The c17 methylation has been added in order to allow Winstrol to survive oral ingestion and the subsequent first pass through the liver. The pyrazol group is a bit weirder- what this means to you and I is that it has another whole “ring” attached to the four ring Steran Nucleus of DHT. Take a look over at the lower left portion of the two molecules below, and you’ll notice that Winstrol has an added cyclopentane (5 sided) group (the pyrazol group):

    DHT

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3View
    Imo yes! 50mgs/Daily is a very common dose (however it’s extremely hepatoxic) whenever I ran oral winny I ran it daily… even with a 8-9 hour active life I got the same results taking it in the am b4 my w/o’s then splitting it… although it’s certainly not uncommon to split up your daily dose 2x/day
    What liver supp(s) are you planning to run with this and how long did you plan on running it?

    Did you read that link – many think injectable winny will not pass through the liver the same way oral tabs are taken – they’re is one different route that I went over that c17 methylated group(pyrazol) will not pass the first oral route through the liver but it’s a totally different chemical structure w/different DikkIyn bonds removed

    Yes I’m planning to take 50 mg per day divided into 2/3 doses (every 8 hours).
    Together I take Liv 52 tablets (2 tablets during lunch and two during dinner) for the entire duration of winstrol + 2 other weeks.

    No I was not able to open the link above! but I think it’s interesting…

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    certainly I would assume winstrol daily, 50 mg daily.

    At the moment I have available this oral winstrol brand (yellow square tabs at 10 mg each)

    TestoSuper
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    I imagine anyway that drinking stress the liver more than injecting … at this point I have available winny tabs 10 mg each, maybe they are better!? I would take it with Liv 52 eventually, 50 mg/day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitoView
    Stanazol was the only thing that gave me some pip so remember you can drink it if you wish. Will need to up the dose a bit to account for the breakdown.

    by drinking the results on the body are the same as injecting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrogenView
    I do not have any problems.. The only thing that I would be cautious of is your reaction to the Winnie at the beginnng. The brand (really how they manufacture it), makes a big difference to me. If you have unbearable pain, it is not the winnie, it is the brand. Maybe I used a brand that was so different, but the vets on here knew what the problem was so I am sure that the brand that I used was not the only brand.

    what are the best brands for injectable winstrol ?
    I could access Zambon, Genesis, Body Research, Taiger pharma, Eurochem …
    or, what brand is bad according to your experience?
    Is more legit the 50 mg / ml vial or the 100 mg/ml multivial?

    TestoSuper
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    So do you think it could be mixed 100 mg of test prop oil base with 100 mg of winstrol water base in the same syringe without any problems?

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    apart lubricate tendons and give good strength support, Deca is great because causes a strong nitrogen retention in the individual muscle groups, it has a very high anabolic action ..
    The biggest drawback is the heavy and long term hpta suppression, but it seems this is very indivudual..
    For this reason I alternate Deca every other year in bulking cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XselfView
    If you use r & l buttock + r & l delts that’s 4 sites, and since the glutes are big and unlikely to hit the exact same spot each time I’d say you’d be good yes.

    But with ever increasing more injections you should like into expanding your repertoire of injection sites. An easy one to include as well are thighs/quads.
    They’re easy and big muscles.

    Yes, when I inject into the buttocks I utilize the upper lateral quadrant, so I can change a bit the position several times within that area, by not inject in the same spot.. ok injecting EOD I think 4 sites are more than sufficient.. i will consider quads also.
    Thank you very much for informations!

    TestoSuper
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    Quote Originally Posted by XselfView
    No, rotate sites. EOD injections in one place is never a good idea.
    If u can truly get the real human grade Zambon Winstrol then hell yeah!
    But I would be very wary with such a product.
    (Fake comes to mind, and there are fakes virtually identical to the real,
    just without any stanozolol in them)

    I’ve always been careful with Winstrol from UGLs, as water based are harder to make "clean" without throwing in loads of shit like mercury. (Thiomersal)
    But the Malay Tiger shit contained Thiomersal and seemed OK, but I never did a blood test to check mercury levels.

    ok.. I believe that I can access the original stuff …
    then alternated right and left buttock EOD is not good? In deltoid is good?

    TestoSuper
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    ok.. I believe that I can access the original stuff …
    then alternated right and left buttock EOD is not good? In deltoid is good?
    TestoSuper
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    ok guys, thanks for your answers.
    I attached my stanozolol tabs (brand British Dragon) — as some of you know, this year I got British dragon Test E multivial Fake …and I had to stop my bulking cycle in 6-week (now I’m on PCT)
    in your opinion, might be this tabs fake also or not? has someone of you used this oral winstrol ??
    tabs are square and yellow

    (I know that this is not the appropriate section for steroid pictures but the best advice I always them from this forum)

    thank you

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