PlatZ

Hi fellas,

Well pretty much I lost about 100lbs+ 2 years back and did everything correct to do so. I dieted ate correctly pushed myself to the extreme at the gym. I measured all my calories, carbs, fats and proteins. It was my life and I lost a lot of weight and got very strong. Took all the supplements, vitamins and even had a food diary. I didnt get why I wasnt gaining much muscle mass and was very disappointed. I was the strong skinny guy at this point and was able to lift with the big boys just looking more like a runner. The worst part was also that I looked great with my clothes but when I was naked I looked like I was wearing my grandpas skin =/

Well I’m 34 now lost a lot of my motivation because of my results and stopped my strict dieting and workout 3 times a week but not as hard and its just to stay healthy. I wanna give it another try and do a cycle of testE with hcg . But Im worried about starting a cycle while i’m not at my physical best. I’m weaker and weight 200lbs now and I’m thinking to start when I’m back to 175lbs and stronger.

Should I wait to loose more fat and get a bit stronger or should I go for it start my cycle and go hard like when I first started?

Glad you’re carrying the torch PlatZ. I was getting tired of arguing with the village idiots.

I’m not sure how one "does their research on doses" but "doesn’t know what a good first cycle is". That doesn’t exactly characterize a state of readiness in my mind.

I’m also relived that a young man of 22 years of age is certain he won’t compromise his endocrine system. Then again, I’m just a 43 year old MD, what could I possibly know about the maturation of an endocrine system.

cause the "vets" decide for you… kinda reminds me of Stalin and "the good old days"….

anyways, here’s my bad advice – if you MUST use steroids and want to use only orals – Stanozolol or Dbol i gues… Start at 20mg, if you feel need – can go higher, but i wouldnt go higher than 40mg because of possible acne.
Dbol can cause kidney f*ck-up like im having now – hurts a bit, so start low dosages first.

Orals as dbol are ok for starters because they get out of the system much faster them some injectables, and if you screw up, you’ll just have to suffer for a week or so

EDIT – if your diet is not perfect youll just gain water and lose it all a few weeks after… diet is 80% of all the result.

Thanks tboney. First my stats are male, 48 yo 178#’s and yes this is the first time I do any type of steroids. All the research I’ve done has mixed messages. What I’ve concluded so far it I need to inject twice per week. But at what dosage each week? I’ve also read about taking Clomide for prevention of Gyno but some people take it during and some after. What is the proper way and is it OK just to take it afterwards?

I have already made up my mind on the decision to take steroids, i assure you i am of age where damaging my endocrine system is not an issue, I’m simply looking for advice from seasoned members who have actually ran cycles, rather than reading articles on the web which could be a load of flannel, thank-you for your concern though

Hi guys, ok so i have been doing research into steroids and know the necessary dosages, PCT, milk thistle, liv52 etc.. But what i don’t know is what to have as a first cycle? I don’t want to dabble in injectables just yet, I’m not ready for that. I was thinking a 6 week cycle of D-bol + 2 weeks Nolvadex but people have said D-bol only cycles create water retention and a bloating effect and also that you lose most of the gains when you come off it? I don’t want to be guzzling dozens of different pills, just a simple cycle that will burn any excess fat and most importantly help me pack on the poundage. Seasoned answers would be much appreciated, thanks