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RETII THAT STICKY!!

Post stats bro!

That should answer most of your first cycle questions. Test only first cycle no winstrol . If you need to.lose water weight and fat you need to tighten up your diet.

Like Marcus said. ..stats?

Originally Posted by fdsfust

I did read and I did use HCG in the past during the cycle to maintain testicular function and size

HOWEVER the only thing that it maintained was SIZE but not function I was shut down and it did not help recover
im saving my HCG for PCT on my next cycle because of my experience

Do that and you’ll stay shut down longer. HCG mimics LH hormone. Put it in your body during PCT and your body WILL NOT produce the needed LH on its own to stimulate natty test production. Why? Cause like the juice add test and your body stops producing it. Add HCG and your body says hey im good on LH there is plenty here the balls down low are already working! Though they arent. So while your doing your PCT your tricking your HTPA into thinking its producing LH cause its picking it up in the bloodstream. But instead your just ****ing yourself in the end. Youll be through 4 weeks of pct and your balls still wont produce cause your nolva and clomid battle estrogen and enable your body to try to stimulate LH production. But your injecting HCG which mimics LH so your body never starts to produce on its own.

Originally Posted by Martens

Both of you just need to dig in here …..forget the videos and take them with a grain of salt. This forum is all you need in terms of educational material. When you are first learning its hard to filter out all of the crap that’s out there……just St07 here.

X2….lots of good info and good Bros here