numbere

Originally Posted by Silabolin

In a couple of fitness magazines.
And they kind of bullied the "old" doctors, with education from the 60s, stil saying eggs are bad for cholestrol.

Hey Sil, you ever consider using a small amount (50mcg/d) of t3 on cycle to reduce/control bf?

Originally Posted by mockery

The synergy with Clen and Cytomel (T3) is undisputed, and to say this is a bad idea is just opinion and not FACT. Taking t3 for the most part is not needed in the majority of people and often cause other issues with people who get their info from the internet. No different then saying 25mcg is a maintenance dose for everyone.

Real hands on TrueMaxding experience will show you, you don’t need to rollercoaster or cycle clen, just take it for a said period of time, doing a mini diet with a beta2 is a good power play and Its effectiveness goes even higher when used with yohimbine HCL. Clen can’t replace hard work and good structured diets, but as you approach the end of your diet or single digits, clen is amazing to add in to get you closer to your goal when the hard work is still applied.

But back to the bolded point in the quote, Clen and T3 work amazing together and increases the overall effectiveness. We are entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts.

-Fact

Mockery, I know you’re been in this life style since the 70s and I respect your viewpoints.

If this thread were in the contest prep forum I would be in agreement, but for the average person getting advice in the Q&A forum using t3 and clen at the same time is a bad idea.

It’s also just overkill for the results most people come here hoping to attain.

-Fact; I’ve used them both at the same time and I had daily panic attics.

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Sorry to burst you guys bubble here, but the facts are not exactly as described above (although a particular number of ppl consistently try to give slight changes to reality).

It is true that large LDL is less harmful than small LDL, but to say that large particles "are good" is wrong. The graph below depicts how much:

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EDIT: Ok, what the graph is saying is that large LDL particles increase the risk of Coronary Heart Disease in 31%, instead of 44% from the small LDL.

Thanks for the study B, but that was damn read lol.

Yeah you’re right, I should have worded that statement much differently.

The main thought that I was trying to convey is that a VAP test is more comprehensive and a better indicator of risks for cardiovascular disease compared to a normal cholesterol test.

Originally Posted by TALDIKORGANSsS

Hey guys

Just wanting to know if clenbuterol is worth running? What are your experiences with it? Did it make a noticeable difference? Is it really muscle sparing?

My diet and training is in check, was looking for some assistance on a cut.

Thanks

Clen may be worth using but it depends on your stats.

If your just starting to lose weight then you dont’t need clen.

Clen is the icing on the cake that helps you lose the last few stubborn pounds.

Using clen and t3 at the same time is a horrible idea.

If you need this much help losing weight then you are doing something drastically wrong.

Clen is not muscle sparing.

From my experience the best way to run clen is take 80mcg then take your body temp few hours later.

If your temp goes up then stay with that dose. If it doesn’t increase then take an extra 20mcg every day until your temp rises.

This method will allow you to find a dose that will help you lose weight while reducing the negative sides.

Clen is a β2 agonist and your body will build up a tolerance quickly.

The best way around this it to reset your β2 receptors by taking 1mg of keto every night.

Alternatively you can cycle it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

If you begin to experience cramps then 3-5+mg/ED of taurine should help.

Originally Posted by yardbirdaj

I currently taking letro @ 0.6 mcg every day and I got some joint pain , should I go 0.6 eod?

If you’re going to use Letro as AI drop it to 0.25-0.6mg eod-e3d or your asking for issues. You need to give letro few weeks so don’t keep changing the dose.

Letro is powerful and as little as 0.25mg can inhibit 98% of E2. The only way to dial in an AI dosage is to monitor your progress with BW.

Originally Posted by wilsher.palm

Thamks numbere/Mr. BB. I’ll hold off a few weeks then and get my blood work done. If I were to do a short cycle next time would tren/t-prop at 75/100 EOD be decent enough?

If your diet is on point then you can just about any goal on that cycle.

Depending on how your body feels you can likely use half that amount of prop and have the same gains.

Tren is much better at attadark_sideng to the androgen receptor compared to test.

This means that if you want to see favorable effects from test it needs to be dosed much higher then tren.

I really hate lecturing people, but you should take a step back and think about what you’re doing to yourself.

You’re coming very close to the line of steroid abuse and your still young.

It would suck big time to be on TRT for the next 50+ years of you life.

Originally Posted by sdog1313

My pre cycle results are posted above how do my new results compare them ?

Your test/e2 ratio is much lower now than it was pre cycle.

This is likely what’s causing your ED issues.