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    Will be starting the cycle discussed in this thread around the second week into September. Thus giving me the correct waiting time between my two cycles for 2015.

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    My photos 1 month after PCT of first cycle. Taken today. ,
    Ive been out of gym 1 month due to moving home back into it now though and diets back in tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198View
    Run the test and dbol again. I think HGH would make a nice addition even at just 2 IU’s per day. I plan on adding HGH to my next (second) cycle.

    2iu??
    You mean 200iu? X2 weekly.

    Anyone used europharma testoviron in my above post? There’s a pic at that link

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    Thanks for the advice, my sups have arrived in prep for the next cycle in around 14-15 weeks time. Anyone tried this brand?

    199ebd2f.jpg Photo by Daniel_R5GTT | Photobucket

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3View
    I too started it late on my first cycle – wk 3-4 as well… Recovery was hard – but I also found out another underlying issue… Yes I would start it from wk 1 throughout cycle up to 3 days b4 pct(note one day won’t make or break anything)

    I’d get another vial.. You’ll use it in the future… Keep in cool dark place…

    Thanks man, other underlying issue?
    Also completely irrelevant was going to ask, are people on TRT because they never recovered after a PCT or is it just a condition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thephoenix25View
    1) 300mg e3.5d
    2) It is recommended to run HCG from week 1 till 4 days before PCT, but some do start later than week 1. I skipped some HCG shots to stretch 5000iu over 12 weeks last time and got significantly more testicular atrophy and recovery seemed a little harder. I will always go from week 1 from now on.

    ps clomid 75/50/50/50 nolv 40/20/20/20

    Thanks great advice, does anyone else agree I should buy another vial of HCG to run it from weeks 1 all the way through instead of starting at week 3.5.

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    Slight change to my proposed cycle,

    1-12 testosterone enanthate @ 600mgs/week
    1-4 dianabol @ 30mgs/day
    3.5-13.5 HCG @ 250iu/3.5 days
    1-13.5 armidex @ 0.25mg/eod

    PCT: (weeks 15-18)
    nolva / clomid: 40/40/20/20, 50/50/50/50

    SUPPLEMENTS:
    1-18 fish oil
    1-5 NAC
    12-18 creatine

    Questions:
    1) should the test e (300mg/ml) be pinned 300mg every 3.5 days or just once per week at 600mg?

    2) is my HCG dose ok? I only have 10 weeks worth being a (5,000iu) vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mussina123View
    Blood work ~6 weeks in to check E2 level

    I’d add NAC for liver b/c of the oral

    Stupidly I didn’t get any before or after bloods done for my previous cycles. Therefore I don’t know what my normal levels are… Also I feel amazing now and bounced back very quick during PCT. My first cycle took me ages to recover but I feel great, it’s been 9 weeks since last jab, (3 weeks since ending 4 weeks of PCT) how long do I wait before starting again.

    Anyone from the UK Know how to get bloods done or what to say to doctors?

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    Sorted! Thanks for the advice, I’ve decided to do:

    [CYCLE]
    Wk 1-12 – Test E: 250mg e3d (583mg per week)
    Wk 1-4 – Dianabol : 30mg ed
    Wk 4.5-14.5 – HCG : 250iu e3.5d (500iu per week)
    Wk 1-14.5 – Adex: 0.25 eod (may increase to 0.5 EOD if needed)
    (What signs tell you if adex is right dose?)

    [PCT]
    Wk 15-18 Clomid 50/50/50/50
    Wk 15-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20

    [SUPPLEMENTS]
    Wk 1-6 Milk Thistle 1g ed
    Wk 15-18 Creatine 10g ed
    Wk 1-18 Fish Oil 1g ed

    That look ok? Any suggestions or changes? Thanks again for all your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3View
    I wouldn’t mix two different brands in a vial(no) – if it’s 250mg/ml then you could run 750mgs wkly(I think w/d-Bol your AI may be a tad harder to dial in)

    That’s a ? Only you can answer – or bump it up to 650 first… It’s all up to you… What are you running for an AI – HCG on cycle right?!

    Thanks thephoenix I didn’t think of that, may help with pinning less volume too! As for an AI I use adex, approx 0.25 EOD to 0.5 EOD. Hcg I ran from weeks 3 to 13.5 then started PCT in week 14. Test was ran weeks 1-10.

    For my new cycle, I’ll either do what Phoenix suggested at 250mg e3d. Or go ahead with EQ, has any one used EQ? I’d like a review when used in terms of a bulking cycle as opposed to deca . Thanks

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    Or reduce to 3 weeks PCT and up the dose??
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    What would be the ideal PCT nolva/clomid for this cycle and is 4 weeks enough?

    Alternatively, do I run nolva solo for the 5th week of PCT? When should I stop taking adex before PCT?

    thanks again

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    TEst only cycle again with a Dbol kicker I’ll read into pulsing ovals. The test e I currently have is 250mg per ampule. Should I buy another brant in a 10ml vial and mix the two to around 600mg per week or is 3 amps at 750mg also ok or too big of a jump from my previous cycle at 500mg?

    Thanks.

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    Cycle update I’ve put on around 12.5 lbs currently on week 10. 17 more days to go. I have absolute zero water retention due to adex dosage, no acne or anything and I’ve put on no BF. HCG is keeping the balls going only at 200iu x2 weekly (400iu weekly).

    Coming off, will wait 2 weeks after last pin before beginning PCT.
    I’ll run the HCG until 3 days before first tabs in PCT.
    PCT will be 4 weeks.
    nolva 40/40/20/20
    clomid 50/50/50/25 (25 because I’ll run out of tablets)

    Can I also include armidex in my PCT? Is it beneficial?
    Also I didn’t get blood work done….. How long do I stay off cycle for after PCT?

    Thanks,

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