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I have seen this pop up time and time again and I have never seen anything to back it up. Is this something where we have to settle for broscience or do you have info that I do not?

After 4 weeks it would be two men and one woman lol.

i completed a 10 weeks cycle that test 500mg + deca 500mg per week. after that, i ran hcg and pct. Some side effects have been resolved likes gyno, however that, i find my balls are shrinked but doesn’t recover after pct. Also, i recently got deca dick issue but it is not very serious. what can i do likes hcg or pct to recover? or go to see doctor?

yes of course you can run both. they are going to have some slightly synergistic properties and added benefits when combined together.

not sure why guys think they can combine 5 different injectables but are supposed to only run one oral at a time. probably the over exaggeration of liver toxicity.. but either way, orals are just like any other AAS and often work better when stacked and combined.

lots of ways to rotate different orals into your cycles, or combine them.

eg. got clients running 25mg Winstrol first thing in the morning for the cortisol suppression and anabolic benefits, while running 50mg of Dbol or Adrol later in the day for the nutrient partitioning and nutrient retentive properties. great combo. later on they both may be pulled out and we will rotate in Var and Tbol for an anabolic only type phase. then a break. then another rotation.

you can do something similar with var and dbol

Not a question or answer but a comment.

What I notice about tren that impact sides.

I believe Estrogen should be as low as you can go without bottoming out so Aromasin when Bulking. Adex is a powerful force but a different type of AI. For low dose test I see the best results with Aromasin.

ED injections should be the norm. I notice the difference in 150 EOD and 75 ED even when using Tren E lessen the sides you cannot escape (cardio hit) Keep your level in body a close to constant as possible. This is why most people see sides flare worst during the first few weeks. Climbing the ladder up is hard.

Respect the sweat. If you are not sweating it can indicate your body "wants" carbs. Why does it want carbs? I believe that most steroids do not exist in the same zipcode as Tren. Tren wants energy to use for building muscle and obliterating fat. This requires energy. Cutting or Bulking must respect daily needs of carbs or you are wasting the substances second most powerful trait.

Carb cycling on Tren. I know I am not a professional body builder and I never will be. I know I am not a nutritionist and never will be. I am smart enough to know that you either cut or bulk. Anything else is someone learning a lesson that they are not as smart as they think they are. As a regular Joe lifting weights on AAS trying to carb cycle while under genetic potential….waste of time. You will get results and you will say wow this is incredible….but you leave the cycle with 2-3 lbs of muscle you could of had. Dumb in my book. I will give an example just ran between to lifters on Tren 500/wk at a very reputable gym here in HK. I babysat the workouts and their nutrition. Lifter A did a full bulk with full meals 7 days a week. Lifter B did a full bulk with carb cycling 3 days a week. Each lifter did hypertrophy to exhaustion exercises for their workouts 4 days a week. Neither lifter did legs to avoid possible injuries due to squat racks do not exist in the gym and the lifters refused to participate on Smith Madark_sidene or Leg Press with the injury possibility. The numbers from bodyfat % at the end had each lifter losing the exact same amount of fat (Both started approx 20 percent). Lifter A gained 35% more LBM than Lifter B. 35% is too insane to ignore. EAT when BULKING when under genetic potential.

I can only say a few things about aggression. First, only happens on days I do not lift. Second, lack of carbs magnifies the side for me. Third, if tren dose fluctuates due to missing a pin it either severely triggers aggression or (I am a Tramadol user) it magnifies the peaceful feelings from the Tramadol and I m the nicest person ever.

Now for the parts that no one talks about. The parts that impact my life and lovedones the most.

********** LETHARGY*********
Tren makes you want to sleep. Bro science all you want to as why but it turns me into sleep every second I can. It is not that I am super tired especially on second in a row rest day. It is Tren impacts you mentally in this way. Which leads to the second item…

**********Think response and attention deficit**********
Tren makes you dumb (And makes you want to kill people that remind you you are dumb) You cannot think on subjects completely because you go from a thought into a floating mindlessness and then when you snap out of it you are like..wth that never happened before. It is real and it is Tren. Yo notice it the most after a workout and you are sitting eating your glucose recharge food stuffs. Zombie. I am sure it has been said before but it is really noticeable even on a 50ml/wk dose in a TrT routine.

**********Just Don’t Care**********
Just went to watch Pirates of the Caribbean. During the initial storytelling I had to force myself to watch. I usually feel a strong "care" to the person I am cheering for in a movie. I did not connect at all with Sparrow and I am a huge fan of the character. I just did not care

After I walked to Wan Chai to see what leg was prancing around. I just did not care. Held my head in the air and walked like a zombie.

Well that is enough. Just what I find about Tren and its bad side. Personally I suggest everyone to take the time and learn a lot about what you are getting into with Tren. My personal thought….

Tren gains are more than you can dream, especially if below genetic potential. Tren sides will place decisions you have to make that translate to Family or Tren.