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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseView
    2iu??
    You mean 200iu? X2 weekly.

    Anyone used europharma testoviron in my above post? There’s a pic at that link

    The guy above is talking about HGH (human growth hormone ) not HCG , and unless you have oodles of money I’d forget that idea, most HGH is fake anyway unless you can get it from a doc. From my understanding HGH is run for months not weeks.

    I have no experience in that brand test before.

    thephoenix25
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuseView
    are people on TRT because they never recovered after a PCT or is it just a condition?

    Both. There is a whole forum here for those on TRT if you want to know more, I’m no expert, but this is how I understand it:

    Not all people on TRT have taken steroids and been unsuccessful in their recovery. For those who have low testosterone and haven’t used steroids, it is more often that their bodies natural testosterone production has slowed down for some reason. Young people are most likely to have higher testosterone levels but this lowers naturally as we age. A man in his 60s or older "may" have a significantly lower testosterone than a man in his teens. For some, as the testosterone production lowers it becomes sub optimal and the body struggles without it, which is where TRT can be used to give the body the testosterone levels it needs. "Optimal" varies significantly from person to person for many reasons. One persons body may function perfectly well at a level of 350mg/dl, whilst another persons body would struggle, but if you are not producing optimal natural testosterone for your body you will experience a whole range of unpleasant symptoms (similar to those you will experience during PCT).

    If you don’t fully recover from your cycle, put simply, it means that after your cycle and PCT your body is not naturally producing testosterone at optimum levels for your body. This may or may not return to normal in time, this is the risk we take. If it doesn’t, your body will need testosterone like those who naturally have low testosterone and hence TRT is an option.

    There are a lot of different causes of low testosterone, thyroid problems, drugs / medication, injury etc and of course steroid use .

    thephoenix25
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    1) 300mg e3.5d
    2) It is recommended to run HCG from week 1 till 4 days before PCT, but some do start later than week 1. I skipped some HCG shots to stretch 5000iu over 12 weeks last time and got significantly more testicular atrophy and recovery seemed a little harder. I will always go from week 1 from now on.

    ps clomid 75/50/50/50 nolv 40/20/20/20

    thephoenix25
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    Time between cycles should be :

    last cycle time + PCT (including time between cycle and pct)

    So a 12 week cycle + 2 weeks between + 4 weeks PCT = 18 weeks until next cycle

    thephoenix25
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    Just an FYI : I have 250mg amps (test e). On my last cycle I injected E3D which works out as 583mg pw. If you want to up the dose, but not by 250, this is a viable method.
    thephoenix25
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    Thanks for the replies.

    The Prop I have is Flash1k Dragon Pharma 100mg/ml. I’ve used the same batch for last couple of cycles to kick start and finish with. I cannot vouch for it’s potency as I’ve always used it in conjunction with Test E, but as a kickstart the effect is noticable with 7-10 days.

    Until now I’ve always used it IM and the PIP is volume related, 0.5ml kinda hurts like a bruise, 1ml is harsh and I’m occasionally limping, 1.5ml I can barely use the muscle and walking is difficult. I tried a couple of shots at 0.25ml Sub Q in either glute (as an experiment) and I’ve noticed no pain, swelling or redness at all, which is why I’m interested to know whether there is any issue with absorption of Prop using Sub Q. Once I’ve finished with this batch I’ll be sourcing a different brand, but I’m only using this to finish my current cycle in a few weeks time.

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