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    Quote Originally Posted by StevoBroView
    What does Michael Clarke Duncan have to do with steroids? lol

    Yes, he didn’t really fit into that group I know. My point is it’s quite obvious from his size that he was hardly natural, but that his death resulted from a heart issue, which COULD have been caused by using… though I can’t prove that… it was just an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TasmaniacView
    When you are thin, there’s a big limit to your abilities. Hence the need for weight divisions. If you are bigger you often need less skill to be able to fight. As long as you can still move well. My trainer in high school was 130-140 kg bendark_sideng 500lb and was quicker than me as a 60kg weakling.

    Movement is a big part of boxing or fighting in general. Fighting is an art… it’s not about aggression so much IMO. However, i’m not sure what you are getting at… so someone was quicker than you that was bigger? I’m saying that adding mass IMO does make one able to move quicker and to torque the body to punch for instance… therefore the muscles that help the body to move that are stronger are going to result in a better, and quicker punch. Being a puncher is more of a gift, but it all i’m saying is that it can be improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1View
    So Pacquiao can hit as hard as Tyson???????

    No, Pacquiao needs to worry about not getting schooled by Marquez and Floyd. A reporter I know has been in quite deep with PED use in boxing… suddenly manny didn’t look as good and couldn’t hurt a 135 lb fighter moving up, but was able to hurt Mosley who had an all time great dark_siden? Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitoView
    I got kicked out of the army cause of bad eye sight and then started to suffer from deppersion started getting fat with a feeling of faliure that i let my self and my country down even tho my medical condtion is out of my control. the women i loved left me got even more depressed started drinking taking cocaine and just hating life.Than about 2 years later i woke up one day turned on the tv and this movie came on "PUMPING IRON" it changed my life i saw the dedication and the succes or death aditude of arnie and i was hooked. I nearly got a wood when he said " even if theres a bomb going off around you never lose your concentration" since then i started hitting the gym then the juice came a few years later. I think the steroids have made me more deppressed and a bit of a loner but who cares im big and good looking with a big ego to boot.

    That felt really good to get off my chest never told anyone this before

    Having a big ego is fine IMO… I have one and i’m not big… I just know i’ve worked hard to get what I have… not only that, but I work no matter what. I have a bad shoulder and back, doctors tell me to rest, but instead I look for whatever ways or exercises I can that will still help me with my goals.

    I’ll also add that I think you should seek some help if you are having some depression issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TasmaniacView
    Same here. I’m in security and although I did years of martial arts, I was still way too skinny

    That’s interesting… many feel that adding more mass doesn’t help with power (in terms of striking) I myself disagree with that statement and think it helps at least to some degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerView
    Anavar is pretty mild on the liver mate. I’m using it now. The bigger problem than the liver is the suppression of your natural testosterone.

    well yeah, that was the other part… makes the price go up quite a bit and makes me need more than I want to take. What the hell out there doesn’t suppress test? Besides test that is lol.

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    This is one of the problems I have seen. Just as a for instance… if you ask about a cycle of something, you will get 10 different answers. It doesn’t seem like there is a hard and fast rule.

    When I was interested in Var, I had asked about 20 mg a day. Most told me that wasn’t enough… while our site sponsors main site says otherwise. I was told by many however that 20 mg’s would do nothing for me at all, and that 60 or more mg’s is what I would need. I’m not a big guy (maybe 160 lbs shredded or less) so I may not need as much as the 200 lb 6’2 guy correct? Ultimately I didn’t want the possibility of liver issues, so I decided against Var.

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    so, at what point does everyone feel abuse is actually abuse? It might be hard to convince someone they are abusing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerView
    Well my first reasons to start going to the gym were to feel noticed by people. It probably sounds ****ing gay to you guys, but its true. Then when you start getting the attention from attractive girls, I started thinking yeah the gym is definitely to get with girls. Then as time progresses I realize I’m doing it to push myself, prove to myself and the doubters than I can do it, and to live a much healthier and fruitful lifestyle. The reason for my using AAS is to push myself harder than I have ever before and to see what new limits I can adark_sideeve. Nothing better than proving to yourself you can do better, and proving the doubters wrong.

    Right, but don’t you think that proving anyone wrong by having to use something isn’t the best way vs. having the right diet and exercise plan and doing it naturally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXJOKERXX55View
    I don’t care who’s using them. I’m convinced most athletes use them. We only hear about the ones that get caught.

    obviously… most or all football players use them, which is pretty easy to see.

    However as a boxingfan (hence the name lol) I am TOTALLY against it in ANY combat sport. It’s dangerous enough without using. Let your talent speak for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixer808View
    My body is naturally skinny. In a nutshell I actually needed a boost to get over the early plateau I hit when I started lifting.

    so you have been satisfied with the results?

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    oh I definitely agree. I have to take several meds and there’s warnings on all of them. I just thought it would be interesting to get each persons reason as to why they use it.

    For instance… in sports I believe it’s a complete and total cheat… no if’s and’s or buts about it.

    However, while illegal, I feel that people such as cops or military should be able to use it if they need more power. You don’t know what you might run into in either profession.

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    I’m not against the use of it obviously. I’m 34 and will have to likely have to use something in the near future. So far my test is ok and in the normal range (633 total) free% and so forth is also fine.

    So it is not true that it causes issues with the ventricle or whatever it supposedly is that is a problem?

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    I really would go to the main page and read about each steroid , some will supress sex drive and cause your libido to drop through the floor. Test is going to be the best option, but like others have said, you don’t want to use test simply for that reason… there are supplements such as horny goat weed and others that will help with libido such as tribulus. If you want harder erections, you can also try L-Arginine, but for me it brought my liver function up (though I cannot directly attribute it to that, however I was on no other new pills or supplements) but in most people they don’t have that issue. If you lift, you will also get much better pumps from it. I would get Arginine in pill form, as it’s about the nastiest stuff i’ve ever had in a powdered drink form.

    If you don’t have symptoms of low test other than libido then yes, abstaining from any sort of sexual activity for a bit will greatly increase your libido and from what i’ve heard will bring your test up naturally… though I have no proof for this right off hand.

    Steroids are certainly nothing to play with unless you really are educated about them all and have a strict purpose for them, they should be left alone until you absolutely need them IMO of course.

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    I can understand that… so for you, do the benefits you see outweigh the risks? Or do you feel that you are cautious enough with how much you use that you won’t have the above issues?
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