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Originally Posted by LittleMan

it pisses me off even more when someone like yourself pretends to know so much about something you know very little about…its time to check yourself before you wreck yourself kid…clen is NOT a stimulant it is a beta 2 agonist and was designed for asthmatics and isn’t even legal here in the united states because as you stated there are many side effects that out weighed the benefits…also remember that everyone is different and dose not react the exact same way you do…there is no need for the fuck offs but I see one coming my way so be it…

I’m not sure what your definition of stimulant is but clen is absolutely a stimulant, all stimulants interact with catehcholamines and are either directly or indirectly beta agonists in some way or another.

I’m not gonna get worked up about something dumb because this is just funny to me, I’ve already done all this stuff and know what happens overtime, clen is absolutely positively toxic as fuck and it is way worse than any other stimulant I’ve ever used in that sense. It’s kind of interesting how the ones parroting the same old nonsense are the ones spinning their wheels getting next to no gain from the stuff they do, I feel bad for these people and attempt to help them but apparently it gets taken the wrong way? Not sure.

Anyone using clen thinking its safe totally deluded, not saying other stimulants are safe but clen is totally different, I hate seeing people take it for little benefit at all, I would go far as to see it’s insane unless you make money off of your body.

And yes, in my own experience talking to others as well clen is far worse than adderall in terms of physical problems especially long term.

Originally Posted by AlexPropionat

Did you say no one on this site knows what clen is ?

Please tell me you’re joking ?

And bro , you’re using Adderall and using gear and ripping on people that use clen.

Just please do me a favor and think before you speak man. Pleaseeeeeee.
I get your young but this is your chance to think before you dark_sideme in

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You people are seriously miserable holy shit!

Get the fuck off whatever you’re taking and honestly fuck off! You look like a fucking teenage boy and are talking about how you know alot about this sport!

Sorry not sorry, It’s so fucking annoying when people who have not had the success are trying to refute stuff that I know to be accurate. Follow the advice everyone else says with little thought and you will end up looking like them.

Originally Posted by redz

Clen kicks my ass I can’t even workout or sleep while on it.

I wonder how many people have put a nice sized hole in their hand from opening a drawing needle package while on clen lol

Originally Posted by OldBoy

yes of course you can run both. they are going to have some slightly synergistic properties and added benefits when combined together.

not sure why guys think they can combine 5 different injectables but are supposed to only run one oral at a time. probably the over exaggeration of liver toxicity.. but either way, orals are just like any other AAS and often work better when stacked and combined.

lots of ways to rotate different orals into your cycles, or combine them.

eg. got clients running 25mg Winstrol first thing in the morning for the cortisol suppression and anabolic benefits, while running 50mg of Dbol or Adrol later in the day for the nutrient partitioning and nutrient retentive properties. great combo. later on they both may be pulled out and we will rotate in Var and Tbol for an anabolic only type phase. then a break. then another rotation.

you can do something similar with var and dbol

what makes winstrol special for it’s cortisol blocking effects compared to others?

When I took strong psych drugs that lowered cortisol alot I was lethargic as hell, that shit was ridiculous. Winstrol is the only " oral" I’ve not used so I’m curious, never really heard anyone say winstrol made them feel good lol.

Originally Posted by OldBoy

If your trying to decide between T3 or T4

if your cutting and on a low carb diet , T3 is going to be best. if your on a high carb diet, utilizing insulin , or just trying to promote nutrient uptake and metabolic support then T4 works fine.

if your running HGH and/or Tren and your thyroid is suppressed, T4 works just fine (as long as your liver is healthy)

if your starting a new diet and you want your metabolism at a ‘fixed’ rate while dialing in the diet and maBambs, T3 is the most optimal (as T3 is actual active thyroid hormone and requires zero conversion).
I often time have clients run T3 at a replacement dosage when starting a new diet just to take the metabolism factor out of the equation to get the diet optimized first and foremost.

if your cutting, T3 works best. start with a lower dosage , 12.5-25mcg, and ramp up to 50mcg. when you come off taper back down.
if you just want some metabolic support, then T4 at 75-150mcg works.

don’t take T3 with caffeine. its effects are limited when combined with caffeine.
split your T3 dosage up and take it a couple times per day with a meal
if your heart rate and body temperature go way up while on thyroid meds then your taking too high a dosage or too much at once.
when you come off of T3/T4 try supplementation with natty thyroid support like Iodine

those are just a few thoughts I have on the subject

You think the caffeine makes t3 work less? The two combined definitely make me feel like im molten lol

It helps your body expend extra energy and fat even at tiny (1mcg) doses, this really isn’t a great thing though, it’s stressful as fuck on your body and you are not going to live as long as you could if you are obsessed with having unnaturally low levels of fat constantly alongside taking clen .

im a person who thinks DNP isnt that big of a deal but no bullshit clen is pretty scary and definitely toxic, I’ve been prescribed adderall since I was 12 and have used it thousands of times throughout the years and it never gave me a single issue cardiac wise nor do I have cardiac problems in general but clen makes my chest sting after I’ve used it for maybe a week, it’s not like a heart attack or anything but clearly something is wrong there. that isn’t even including the absolutely disgusting mental side effects the drug has, if you thought you had anxiety before clen… hah

odd world we live in where people taking drugs like clen are admired and considered healthy 😕 sorry i got a personal problem with this substance and the culture around it