Third Cycle: What to stack with Test Enanthate

Originally Posted by NACH3

I wouldn’t mix two different brands in a vial(no) – if it’s 250mg/ml then you could run 750mgs wkly(I think w/d-Bol your AI may be a tad harder to dial in)

That’s a ? Only you can answer – or bump it up to 650 first… It’s all up to you… What are you running for an AI – HCG on cycle right?!

Thanks thephoenix I didn’t think of that, may help with pinning less volume too! As for an AI I use adex, approx 0.25 EOD to 0.5 EOD. Hcg I ran from weeks 3 to 13.5 then started PCT in week 14. Test was ran weeks 1-10.

For my new cycle, I’ll either do what Phoenix suggested at 250mg e3d. Or go ahead with EQ, has any one used EQ? I’d like a review when used in terms of a bulking cycle as opposed to deca . Thanks

[CYCLE]
Wk 1-12 – Test E: 250mg e3d (583mg per week)
Wk 1-4 – Dianabol : 30mg ed
Wk 4.5-14.5 – HCG : 250iu e3.5d (500iu per week)
Wk 1-14.5 – Adex: 0.25 eod (may increase to 0.5 EOD if needed)
(What signs tell you if adex is right dose?)

[PCT]
Wk 15-18 Clomid 50/50/50/50
Wk 15-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20

[SUPPLEMENTS]
Wk 1-6 Milk Thistle 1g ed
Wk 15-18 Creatine 10g ed
Wk 1-18 Fish Oil 1g ed

That look ok? Any suggestions or changes? Thanks again for all your help.

Originally Posted by mussina123

Blood work ~6 weeks in to check E2 level

I’d add NAC for liver b/c of the oral

Stupidly I didn’t get any before or after bloods done for my previous cycles. Therefore I don’t know what my normal levels are… Also I feel amazing now and bounced back very quick during PCT. My first cycle took me ages to recover but I feel great, it’s been 9 weeks since last jab, (3 weeks since ending 4 weeks of PCT) how long do I wait before starting again.

Anyone from the UK Know how to get bloods done or what to say to doctors?

1-12 testosterone enanthate @ 600mgs/week
1-4 dianabol @ 30mgs/day
3.5-13.5 HCG @ 250iu/3.5 days
1-13.5 armidex @ 0.25mg/eod

PCT: (weeks 15-18)
nolva / clomid: 40/40/20/20, 50/50/50/50

SUPPLEMENTS:
1-18 fish oil
1-5 NAC
12-18 creatine

Questions:
1) should the test e (300mg/ml) be pinned 300mg every 3.5 days or just once per week at 600mg?

2) is my HCG dose ok? I only have 10 weeks worth being a (5,000iu) vial.

Originally Posted by thephoenix25

1) 300mg e3.5d
2) It is recommended to run HCG from week 1 till 4 days before PCT, but some do start later than week 1. I skipped some HCG shots to stretch 5000iu over 12 weeks last time and got significantly more testicular atrophy and recovery seemed a little harder. I will always go from week 1 from now on.

ps clomid 75/50/50/50 nolv 40/20/20/20

Thanks great advice, does anyone else agree I should buy another vial of HCG to run it from weeks 1 all the way through instead of starting at week 3.5.

Originally Posted by NACH3

I too started it late on my first cycle – wk 3-4 as well… Recovery was hard – but I also found out another underlying issue… Yes I would start it from wk 1 throughout cycle up to 3 days b4 pct(note one day won’t make or break anything)

I’d get another vial.. You’ll use it in the future… Keep in cool dark place…

Thanks man, other underlying issue?
Also completely irrelevant was going to ask, are people on TRT because they never recovered after a PCT or is it just a condition?