MuttonChop

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  • MuttonChop
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79View
    And girls are generally about 10 years smarter than guys…………..

    No, they mature faster than men. You have your facts mixed, unless you were stating your personal opinion. Mature here refers to brain development changes. Men’s brains keep on changing until they are about 28, when they reach "homeostasis". The reason women mature faster is because they could potentially have to raise dark_sidelCrash007 from as early an age as 13 (youngest mother recorded was around 9 or so).

    MuttonChop
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInkView
    I respect your input and appreciate that you’ve advised OP to wait, if for no other reason than his limited training experience.

    The problem with citing anecdotal experiences is that we can find any example to support our reasons to cycle or not. Does everyone who cycles before the magic number 25 endure complications? No. Does this mean then that everyone who cycles before their endocrine system has reached maturity will not have any complications? No. Just as you cited examples of kids (sorry, young men) who cycled at young ages and haven’t had any problems (at least not that they know of YET), there are plenty of threads here from young guys who have screwed themselves up. Moreover, some of our vets here would be the first to tell you THEY DID cycle at a young age and now have permanent problems to deal with.
    I’ve met people who have smoked and never developed cancer. I’ve met people who smoked and developed cancer. I’ve met people who never smoked and did develop cancer. So what do we conclude from this? Well, I certainly would never condone smoking.
    I’m not trying to imply that taking steroids is just as dangerous as smoking    ….however there are risks regardless and such risks are most certainly weighted more heavily against those who manipulate their endocrine system with steroids before it has fully developed.

    Again, I respect and appreciate your view and input, but I’d be very reluctant to encourage younger guys to cycle before they have reached maturity. You can take all the precautions you want and be as meticulous as possible, but you have no way of really knowing what the risks are of shutting down a developing HTPA….until it may be too late.

    Great line in bold. It’s funny how smoking is so so much worse than cycling but the public and medias have their priorities backwards and up their rectums.

    MuttonChop
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnavewandsView
    I’m thinking of doing a cycle of test when I turn 20 this year… I know this is kind of young, but I have VERY big dreams when it comes to TrueMaxding. The level I want to compete at requires steroids to be taken… By my 20th I would have been lifting for almost 2 years. I eat the same maBamb’s every day and am currently cutting to 10% BF… when I do the cycle of test I plan to be bulking… Thoughts on this?

    Also, is it better to do either hypertrophy or strength training when taking test? Currently I’m doing SS 3×5 and making some nice progress despite the fact I’m cutting.

    Thanks in advance guys?

    Just the fact that you are still making progress on Starting Strength means that you have a long way to go. Come back when you bench goes up by only 5 lbs every month.

    Not removing the spotlight from your age here, but you already know about that. I would give completely different adivice to a guy making noob gains at 20 vs. a guy who has trained for 6 years before 20 and wants to be pro at 25.

    MuttonChop
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    Quote Originally Posted by iCoolView
    Thought I would update this and say I decided NOT to cycle.

    I managed to go from 150lbs when I made this thread and I just weighed in at 170 a couple of days ago. It’s all coming back quickly and I seem to have stayed the same bodyfat percentage. At this rate I should be back to 190lbs just in time to cut for summer

    Good for you mate. I can understand how difficult the decision to stay natural must have been.

    Referring back to your old post, I also think that a part of our personality is attached to our muscles. We walk likes gods because we worked our asses off for those damn muscles. Our muscles are our "walking resumes".

    MuttonChop
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayloratlView
    While I got this thread going just wanna clear up one more thing. With adding the testosterone don’t I not have to worry as much about what my caloric deficit is and losing too much muscle along the way. That was my number one reason for adding it. Never gonna drop the weight I want at 500 cal deficit a week??

    I am 6feet almost 6’1" myself and I was 240 lbs at 20% bf once. I lost no muscle mass while on a 700 calorie deficit. As I said in my above post, you don’t even need the test. Look into the ECA stack. It is a thermogenic AND it preserves muscle mass.

    MuttonChop
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    You are probably not even close to your genetic potential mate. You could very easily cut without any roid and still retain muscle mass. Look into the ECA stack or Clenbuterol .

    Test at very very high doses can help with fat loss, but otherwise, the only reason to use Test is to retain muscle mass so you can go on a huge calorie deficit.

    You won’t bloat too much at 250mg/week of Test. I would recommend that you rather add an AI like Arimidex or Aromasin than something like Winstrol . Winstrol can be extremely harsh on your joints and hairline.

    Even if you do end up bloated, why do you care? The water will come off eventually. Winny isn’t worth it for someone with your stats mate. Test is underrated IMO.

    But I understand your thought process…when someone enters the world of steroids , it is like a kid entering a candy store…I want a bit of that…a bit of that…OOH and DEFINITELY THAT!!

    =) RAN18

    MuttonChop
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    Need more stats.

    Winny is overrated IMO. Which one of it’s effects are you specifically looking for? 250mg/week of Test is more than enough to cut with if you are just hovering somewhere near your genetic potential. As I said…stats!

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