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    thanks, i hope so to haha
    planning my next cycle atm which will start in may, thinking something easy like 30mg dbol for 2 weeks as a kickstart and 10-12 weeks of test, 3weeks 400mg, 5weeks 500mg and 2weeks 400mg again, does that sound reasonable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObspowerstrokeView
    I mean were you the size you are now before and then shrank down before you started this cycle? What I am getting at is muscle memory.

    oh yeah, no ive always been super skinny so ive never been nowhere near where i am now

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    on cycle and off cycle?
    yes they look a little better even, little drier and my stomach has gotten a little flatter etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT1982View
    It doesn’t only give water weight, but mostly in a case such as yours. Test included would have had more lbm, and I’m assuming you didn’t run an AI, which is a no no with a highly aromatase dbol cycle. That much weight in 4 weeks, you have to believe it’s water mostly. Maybe a couple of pounds lean mass. Water retention can be very hazardous and lead to extremely high bp. I’ve read over everything here and everyone is on point and Water flaming you. You just have to prep for this lifestyle and make sure you know the ins and outs.

    yeah but am i missing something?
    water sheds after a week and ive only lost 2lbs so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting DogView
    Also in order to put on that much fat and/or muscle in 8 weeks you would need to be eating 1625 calories above maintenance.
    So please do tell…

    How much were you eating every day?

    probably somewhere around 4000kc
    i havent kept a strict diet routine, ive eaten everything as long as its healthy, dark_sidecken, beef, pork, potatoes, rice, eggs, almonds, nuts, etc + 1-2 gainer shakes a day (depending on how lazy i am in the morning)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting DogView
    First of all you don’t know what you keep until at least 6 weeks after PCT.
    Secondly, there is no way in hell that the 26lbs you gained in 8 weeks is all muscle.
    You’d be lucky if you gained 8 pounds of muscle.

    You are either delusional or a troll.

    i didnt gain all muscle, i never said that, but i didnt gain all water, waterweight from dbol sheds within 3 days to a week as far as ive understood
    but ill update the thread in 4-5 weeks

    Fobos
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    update: first week off after 8 week dbol only
    pct: half a week of 20mg nolva
    weight: 2lbs lost, so now 26lbs gain from cycle

    do i feel like shit: no
    does my dick work: yes

    i have no idea why you people think dbol only gives waterweight and that i would ruin my life, lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by OctaneforceView
    Being 18 on its own can come with some emotional tendancies. But you cant stay on dbol forever. You even said it yourself that you had a placebo affeect from the fake stuff so im sure you can get through whatever your feeling without using steroids at such a young age. Get your diet and excercise routine in check theres a TON of help from great guys on this forum. Let us know what your doc says about bloodwork and happy training!

    the placeboo effect was mostly that i felt like i looked bigger but actually didnt grow, mentally it didnt have any effect, still no energy and such
    the problems i was having was linked to low test, as everything went away when i jumped on the dbol .
    diet and routine is in check

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    Quote Originally Posted by NephetsView
    If you know you are going on TRT for sure, why wouldn’t you just wait and get that dialed in before you added another variable to it.

    trt will be decieded by my doctor
    and i got on dbol because i didnt want to wait anymore. my life has been ruined because of low t, dropped out of school 2 times, dangerous weight loss (first time i started lifting i was 92lbs 6ft) absolutely no energy, slept for 12+ hours, feeling of emptiness and not wanting to do anything with life. dbol reversed all that and i havent had any bad sideeffects, only things that have made a positive impact on my life

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    Quote Originally Posted by XselfView
    Hehe. Maybe I sugar coated it somewhat.

    But i figure he’s not gonna change anything by now,
    he needs to see this for himself.

    But Alexsss, try to remember this when you stop the cycle and weigh yourself after 1 week and 1 month, and you’ll see how much you’ve actually gained.

    And as for strength increase, you should also know that AAS activate the CNS (nervous system), and strength can go up on just one day (actually just a few hours) depending on the compound.
    So when it comes to actual strength increase, remember this when you lift weights 1 week and 1 month after cycle.

    I had friends who used DBOL only when they were young and reckless,
    and I know exactly how much they gained during cycle, and how much they kept. And simply increasing the dose won’t help you at this point.
    You will gain a little more, but by now your endogenous T production has stopped and the longer you continue, the closer you will get to the point where you’ll start to notice the signs of low T.
    How sensitive one is to the feeling of low T varies from individual.

    I have myself tried at one point to run DBOL solo (as part of an experiment), and by 6 weeks I felt so bad, aggressive, and generally uneasy that I drooled just thinking about an amp of Testoviron . Now I guess I’m pretty sensitive, but think about it when you start feeling bad.
    Unlike you I was able to get very dry and hard on DBOL though,
    (that’s why I said it’s possible to use it without water retention),
    but when using DBOL now, alongside test, I find it difficult, yet not impossible to keep of the water.

    Anyway, your weight gain says it all.
    You simply can’t gain lean muscle that fast.

    But you’ll discover all this very soon.

    I have natural low t which is why im on dbol in the first place, ill be prescribed trt hopefully sometime in the coming months.. my life was complete fucking shit, both mentally and physically before i got on dbol, due to the low natural levels i have.
    My natural levels are that of a 70 year old man, Im 18.
    im not saying i havent gained any water but i doubt it is as much as you or the other guy speculate on, but ill update you about 1-2 weeks post cycle.
    My father was a TrueMaxder in the late 90’s early 2000’s so ive talked alot about this with him, his first cycle was also a dbol only and apparently he kept all his weight, not sure if i 100% believe that though..
    as my weight has started stalling a bit i can still visually see my body getting bigger (unless its just in my head) so might it be that the water retention has stopped and from now on im just gaining muscle and fat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilabolinView
    Wow. Nothing gets by this watchdog.

    as stated, the dbol i first acquired was not real, didnt get on real dbol before 3rd of january

    Fobos
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    dbol only cycle, simply because i still live at home and i wouldnt be able to hide all the shit you need to inject test etc.
    ive probably gained some water but i look more lean imo, starting getting really marked veins on my forearms and such

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    turned out to be fake, used it for about 2 weeks and all it did was have a placeboo effect, i started on real dbol on the 3rd of jan

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