masteron vs equipoise

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

You fvcking with me? Lol

You seem like you’d know the answer to this pretty well

Mast is just a finisher & not for "gains"

Eq – well, I have read some aight shit about it. But, it’s a weak & mild compound which needs to be ran in fairly high doses & for long periods of time

Lean gains IMO – tren ace or orals / that about covers it – – – delicious sounding over priced primo

Lmao ur right.. Sometime I need to rethink my questions. I do know the answer to it. I was looking to run a 16weeker for a show and trying to think of compounds that I can use after my show to add only lean mass. Eq and Mast are the only other compounds. I don’t want to run DECA and after doing some reading I don’t want to touch eq either. Both stay in your system for over a year. Looking for dry clean weight.
1-9 test p 300mg
1-10 tren a 200-300mg
4-10 mast 500mg
6-10 winny 50mg ED

10 SHOW (tren, mast, winny)

11-16 test p 400-500mg
11-16 blank (compounds I was thinking about MHN 15mg or Tbol 50mg)

I’m hesitant to jump back on sdrol clone because of being lethargic all the time (we spoke about before Samson)
What other compounds help with lean gains? It can be either oral or injection. Also I know its not a good idea to run two orals in the same cycle so an injection would be best.. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Rockfeld

I think this is all wrong and going by this the wrong way, ill break this down

Your prepping for a show?
You want to gain through out your show and after as well?

Whats the point of doing this show exactly? Just a hobbie or do you want to actually win?

What is wrong beside the two orals (that I probably won’t do. Looking for opinions)

Yes prepping for a show. I want to maintain my weight but lower my bf% on cycle.
Of course trying to win?! Haha was a real question or a joke? (Sorry text u can’t tell if someone is being sarcastic)

I want to use the 6wks after show to gain some muscle. Because my body will be primed. So growth is the key after show.

Originally Posted by Rockfeld

If you want to win your body won’t be primed at all, your going to feel like shit you will be in a HUGE calorie deficient and gaining will be the last thing on your mind ,

You usually hit the stage chemical free on the last week to keep water to the absolute low

So if you want to win you need to make a decision,

Go balls to the wall and cycle properly for the competition,

Or
Keep cycling through and just play it out .

The fact you want to keep going through shows me your not fully dedicated into winning .

This is yor first show ?

From everything I have read is that when ur done with a show u are primed do to the fact that ur in such a huge calorie deficiency which makes the body a sponge.

The first 10wks I’m not looking to gain weight but to drop some bf% while being on a calorie deficiency.

Also I am going to be dropping my test p a week out so I don’t hold much water weight..

If this is not a proper contest cycle please help me lay one out.
I have never hear of anyone hitting stage chemical free especially in the NPC.

The last 6 weeks when the show is over is when I’m looking to gain some muscle.

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Not much left, man

I’m kinda in the same boat

Primo sounds way tasty, but at the price it’s just a joke

Only one real thing left if you wanna keep on swelling – GH or GH

As far as orals – I’m done, you can eat a ton of Var. It’s bound to help out a bit – but, still not worth the damage IMO

Yeah man I was looking at getting HGH but that shit is crazy expensive but it seems like its worth it.. Yeah primo is on the list to try but not at the price tag.. I also found injectable var. I don’t know how legit it is haha.