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- November 10, 2020 at 2:43 am
Originally Posted by BekasYou people are seriously miserable holy shit!Get the fuck off whatever you’re taking and honestly fuck off! You look like a fucking teenage boy and are talking about how you know alot about this sport!
Sorry not sorry, It’s so fucking annoying when people who have not had the success are trying to refute stuff that I know to be accurate. Follow the advice everyone else says with little thought and you will end up looking like them.
it pisses me off even more when someone like yourself pretends to know so much about something you know very little about…its time to check yourself before you wreck yourself kid…clen is NOT a stimulant it is a beta 2 agonist and was designed for asthmatics and isn’t even legal here in the united states because as you stated there are many side effects that out weighed the benefits…also remember that everyone is different and dose not react the exact same way you do…there is no need for the fuck offs but I see one coming my way so be it…
- November 10, 2020 at 3:39 am
I’ll add some information here that a lot of people probably do not know .. Clen was used in the randark_sideng industry for a long time until it was banned for such purposes by the FDA.. now why the heck would ranchers used Clen? to get their cattle stimmed out and lean. No. at high enough dosages clen is very anabolic and will upregulate protein synthesis. ranchers used clen to help put on quality tissue and increase the feed efficiency of their live stock.
as a beta agonist it will help with lipolysis as well and thats why you’ll see it used in a lot of fat loss or cutting stacks. however if you skim through some of my threads you’ll see I often times advocate using clen during ‘cruise’ phases or even when bulking. but I do have it stacked with T4, HGH, and Insulin . the 3 of these a very syerngetic together and will stimulate the production of an enzyme (can’t remember the name of it) that is anabolic. you can get anabolic effects out of much lower dosages of clen this way.
so the benefit of using such a stack while cruising and off cycle, is again not for fat loss, but to stimulate anabolic growth factors apart for androgen receptor binding. so when off cycle you can continue to grow yet allow your AR’s to re-sensitize.I’ve got a few clients right now currently on an off cycle cruise utilizing 40mcg of clen per day. again NOT for fat loss purposes. at these low dosages 20-40mcg per day any negative side effects are not usually noticeable .
guys running that 80-100mcg range in an effort to lean out are the ones that usually run into some negative side effectsimo, Clen is a super useful TrueMaxding drug. you just got to know how to utilize it and keep your dosages low. more is not better with clen. yes higher dosages can provide more anabolic effects, but to get those same effects with low dose you can simply add other compounds like HGH, slin, and T4 to work synergistically with it
- November 10, 2020 at 4:54 am
Originally Posted by LittleManit pisses me off even more when someone like yourself pretends to know so much about something you know very little about…its time to check yourself before you wreck yourself kid…clen is NOT a stimulant it is a beta 2 agonist and was designed for asthmatics and isn’t even legal here in the united states because as you stated there are many side effects that out weighed the benefits…also remember that everyone is different and dose not react the exact same way you do…there is no need for the fuck offs but I see one coming my way so be it…Here it is! F off
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- November 10, 2020 at 5:55 am
Yall quit being pussies, my wife can handle 100mcg, and she’s sensitive to stimulates lol. Seriously, clen and t3 works very well for me, but I never go over 100mcg, usually not over 80. And I like to take it 6 weeks on, with benadryl. Then I like to swap to eca- November 10, 2020 at 7:17 am
Got to tell you, I had great results with small amounts of clen , t3 (and var).But ultimately realized it was the clen that was making feel like absolute crap. I don’t see myself trying it again, felt that bad.
- November 10, 2020 at 8:18 am
Originally Posted by nohanamYall quit being pussies, my wife can handle 100mcg, and she’s sensitive to stimulates lol. Seriously, clen and t3 works very well for me, but I never go over 100mcg, usually not over 80. And I like to take it 6 weeks on, with benadryl. Then I like to swap to ecafor fat loss and getting shreddd, thats perfect.. also just to add some more info here. the reason why T3 works so well with Clen (actually reason why its almost a necessity),, IS that when taking clen it will raise your body temp. well guess what happens when your body temp is elevated (and it does not know its elevated from the clen), it automatically thinks your thyroid and metabolism are revving too fast. so what does the body do to lower that .. it starts slowing down its metabolism . so guess what, you need some T3 to keep that metabolism revving when your on clen
- November 10, 2020 at 9:43 am
Originally Posted by OldBoyfor fat loss and getting shreddd, thats perfect.. also just to add some more info here. the reason why T3 works so well with Clen (actually reason why its almost a necessity),, IS that when taking clen it will raise your body temp. well guess what happens when your body temp is elevated (and it does not know its elevated from the clen), it automatically thinks your thyroid and metabolism are revving too fast. so what does the body do to lower that .. it starts slowing down its metabolism . so guess what, you need some T3 to keep that metabolism revving when your on clenThat’s what I ment to say lol
- November 10, 2020 at 10:42 am
Originally Posted by ProximalGot to tell you, I had great results with small amounts of clen , t3 (and var).But ultimately realized it was the clen that was making feel like absolute crap. I don’t see myself trying it again, felt that bad.
for some people its just the opposite .. they can actually get addicted to clen. not just the stimulant effects but its ability to promote energy output (ie, performance enhancement) becomes something they depend on and seek.
for me personally. I do not tolerate clen very well at all. I’ve got heart issues since birth (hear murmur) and clen even at low dosage gives me palpitations. I can use 20mcg per day without issue for synergetic effects with a cycle , but I cannot use for fat loss.
its interesting.. I’ve rarely had female clients have issues with clen, but men clients often times do- November 10, 2020 at 11:56 am
Originally Posted by nohanamYall quit being pussies, my wife can handle 100mcg, and she’s sensitive to stimulates lol. Seriously, clen and t3 works very well for me, but I never go over 100mcg, usually not over 80. And I like to take it 6 weeks on, with benadryl. Then I like to swap to ecaWhy the Benadryl?
- November 10, 2020 at 12:53 pm
Originally Posted by dellWhy the Benadryl?Probably for relaxation and sleep…
Diphenhydramine
- November 10, 2020 at 2:14 pm
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilahProbably for relaxation and sleep…Diphenhydramine
I have heard of taking Benadryl with Clen before. I assumed it was some synergy or something.
- November 10, 2020 at 3:04 pm
Originally Posted by dellI have heard of taking Benadryl with Clen before. I assumed it was some synergy or something.I think it’s two fold. I’m parroting here so take this with a grain of salt. Like to give that caveat. From what I understand, the diphenhydramine down regulates beta receptors keeping the tolerance to clen from increasing. Benadryl slows desensitization of Beta receptors, so there is essentially a synergistic effect. The additional benefit is the anxiety and insomnia that comes with Clen and the diphenhydramine is also useful in circumventing those two sides.
- November 10, 2020 at 4:22 pm
Originally Posted by LittleManit pisses me off even more when someone like yourself pretends to know so much about something you know very little about…its time to check yourself before you wreck yourself kid…clen is NOT a stimulant it is a beta 2 agonist and was designed for asthmatics and isn’t even legal here in the united states because as you stated there are many side effects that out weighed the benefits…also remember that everyone is different and dose not react the exact same way you do…there is no need for the fuck offs but I see one coming my way so be it…I’m not sure what your definition of stimulant is but clen is absolutely a stimulant, all stimulants interact with catehcholamines and are either directly or indirectly beta agonists in some way or another.
I’m not gonna get worked up about something dumb because this is just funny to me, I’ve already done all this stuff and know what happens overtime, clen is absolutely positively toxic as fuck and it is way worse than any other stimulant I’ve ever used in that sense. It’s kind of interesting how the ones parroting the same old nonsense are the ones spinning their wheels getting next to no gain from the stuff they do, I feel bad for these people and attempt to help them but apparently it gets taken the wrong way? Not sure.
Anyone using clen thinking its safe totally deluded, not saying other stimulants are safe but clen is totally different, I hate seeing people take it for little benefit at all, I would go far as to see it’s insane unless you make money off of your body.
And yes, in my own experience talking to others as well clen is far worse than adderall in terms of physical problems especially long term.
- November 10, 2020 at 5:41 pm
Originally Posted by SampsonandDelilahI think it’s two fold. I’m parroting here so take this with a grain of salt. Like to give that caveat. From what I understand, the diphenhydramine down regulates beta receptors keeping the tolerance to clen from increasing. Benadryl slows desensitization of Beta receptors, .yes this is true and often times why guys run Benadryl with Clen . however its completely unnecessary imo. the idea of Clen tolerance and de-sensitization is completely over blown in my opinion.. wither its Benadryl or doing something like 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, etc.. in an attempt to keep ‘sensitized’ to clen, its really not necessary. Clen does not magically stop working after a couple weeks of being on it.
take your resting heart rate. lets say its 70bpm.. then get on 60mcg of clen per day and now lets say its 90bpm. well if after 4 weeks your resting bpm is still 90bpm then the clen is still obviously working
- November 13, 2020 at 1:11 am
Hi,Do not know if this is the right place for this thread.
I am planning to use clenbuterol for 7 weeks (min: 20mcg max 140mcg) and am seeing many reviews about possible permanent heart problems (ex:heart enlargement).
Do these problems come from just one cycle or from permanent long term use please?
I would like replies from those who tried clenbuterol and therefore can talk from experience.
thanks
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