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Okay but if Im using these apples and oranges to bulk which one helps you put on and keep the most muscle after PCT and is it noticable.

I dont care about water weight I want lean body mass. The main thing Im trying to figure out is if I do Deca will I get more muscle in a 12 week cycle than with Tren -E.

This is the one thing that most people dont specifically get into. They mainly say Deca makes them blow up bigger. My main St07 is the end game not the water weight mid cycle.

To the vets out there would you say you noticed a noticably higher total muscle gain on deca over tren when bulking?