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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BBView
    250mgs of test have 180mgs of actual test

    That is dependent on the ester

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    Quote Originally Posted by redzView
    Test is very performance enhancing, I have used it for hockey and seen great results and I stand by the fact 250mg is a waste of time I have seen it enough times.

    And I have seen 250mg/week not be a waste enough times. The guy is sprinter not a TrueMaxder and not a hockey player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redzView
    250 mg wkly puts me at around 1800 serum tes levels and over 70 on free t. Hmm that’s enough to see some great gains. True I prefer 300+ mgs per wk even on cruise mode but with the proper food consumption and a good disciplined work out routine you can see gains and def maintain all gains from blast mode at 250 mgs/wkly. would i suggest such a low cycle dose…. No not unless it is accompanied by another compound, but anytime you can raise you tes levels to 3x your nat. you better see some gains of you need to get of your ass and get busy in the gym and kitchen!

    Thank you for your post. This is my point exactly. We got guys saying 250mg/week is barely more than a TRT dose. Who here is on 250mg/week TRT to keep their levels normal or "barely above normal?" You will see results at the level and for a first cycle do we really need to be advocating more is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveMcGee1987View
    Thank you

    Im going to order the winny anyway and see how i get on, i probably will be greedy and bang it in at the end but who knows, may keep it for a future tren cycle.

    Is there anything i can use to kickstart this cycle while waiting for the enth esters to kick in? Bare in mind im after a lean bulk, dbol is a no, anavar too pricey, how would 4 weeks of oxymetholone do for me, any other suggestions?

    Forget the kickstart. This is your first go with tren so I would just see how you do with that before adding anything else into the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redzView
    With all due respect you should stop giving advice. Suggesting he runs 2 compounds for his first cycle is an even worse idea and 250mg is a waste of time to be shutting yourself down.

    Oh yes two compounds is such a horrible idea because he needs to see how his body reacts to 150mg of testosterone a week before adding a second compound? Give me a break you are the one saying 250mg is barely a TRT dose then he should certainly have no worries with 150mg a week.

    You think 500mg of testosterone a week is the best compound for a sprinter? Did you read the OP? Far better compounds suited for his goals. All I was advising is a replacement dosage of testosterone. You have been around long enough not to parrot information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redzView
    There is no point to running 250mg test e per week as it is barely more than a trt dose. Effectively using an ai with a clean diet will prevent bloat.

    With all due respect I would not exactly say there is no point. It is fairly more than the body produces per week and one would still see benefits from this dose.

    OP have you researched using a TRT dose of testosterone as your base (like 150mg/week) and using a non-aromatizing compound in conjunction?

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    Well then as suggested I would hold off on the winstrol and see how far you get with the tren alone. I have a feeling you will be impressed and likely won’t need it.

    Also I would run the Winstrol on the back end myself anyway so if you are getting toward the end and still want to include it well then that is your call. However, I am not a fan of Winstrol personally.

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