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    Quote Originally Posted by GSX-RView
    So this could really be applicable for any cycle where someone will be running an enanthate ester and has the option to frontload with prop?

    Sounds like a good idea, I figure the quicker I can get the gains the more time during the cycle I will have them for and hopefully convince the body to keep at least some of it for it’s homesotasis level when things are finished.

    yes exactly . I’ve advocated that idea quite a bit. currently running NPP with my Deca right now doing just that.

    so yes-
    Test prop to Test e
    Mast prop to Mast e
    NPP to Deca
    Tren Ace to Tren e
    Bold Ace to EQ
    Trest A to Trest cyp
    Primo Ace to Primo depot
    etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    you can offset some of the estrogenic water retention by running a strong androgen with the Dbol instead of running an AI.. this will allow you to still get the benefits of the elevated estrogen. you could add in Masteron or low dose of Halo (if your liver is healthy) on top of the Nolva

    note : Masteron on paper does not appear to be a very strong androgen (especially compared to Halo or Tren ), but in practical application its very much a strong androgen in my opinion.

    another one is Stenbolone. its androgen rating is only twice that as test, but personally the couple of times I’ve ran it its very much a strong androgen. I like to think of it as androgenic primo

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainshakerView
    What would be your recommended dosage and duration if mixing with only Test E – 500mg per week? I was going to run a pussy 4-6weeks at 20mg, but man you’ve got me feeling like it would be a waste now.

    depends on how long you plan on blasting test as a cycle..
    lest just say for example its 12 weeks, then you can simply set up your Dbol usage like this

    Weeks 1-6 – 50mg per day
    weeks 7-9 – 30mg per day
    weeks 10-12 – 20mg pre workout days only

    this longer duration with the tapering method will allow you to hold the "Dbol gains" longer and thus get your body acclimated to them, rather then just pissing them aways after 4 weeks and stopping cold

    OldBoy
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    EQ was popularized to the mainstream as a ‘horse’ steroid . but its just an every day animal steroid/medicine

    heres a copy and paste from a vet store retailer of EQ and dosage merQistration

    Cattle, horses and pigs: 1 mL/90 kg of b.w.; sheep, goats and camelids: 0.5 mL/45 kg of b.w.; dogs and cats: 0.5 mL/10 kg of b.w.; fighting cocks: 0.05 mL/2 kg of b.w. Apply through deep intramuscular route.

    yes , you can give your cats and dogs EQ . and if you have a "fighting cock" (ie , bad ass rooster) you can give it EQ as well

    OldBoy
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    you can offset some of the estrogenic water retention by running a strong androgen with the Dbol instead of running an AI.. this will allow you to still get the benefits of the elevated estrogen. you could add in Masteron or low dose of Halo (if your liver is healthy) on top of the Nolva

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by nohanamView
    Haha, I like your thinking. I did the same thing with tren this last cycle, but never dropped the ace…lol

    lol, yeah you and Obs both. think he frontloaded some Tren Ace way back in April, and he’s still on it !

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindexView
    Going from Nandrolone to EQ in my opinion is like trading in a ferrari for a skateboard.

    good analogy here . especially if he is going from running a combo of Deca /Dbol , to his proposed 250mg a week of EQ. there is just no comparison here (and I’m even a fan of EQ)

    why not add EQ on TOP OF your experience with Deca and Dbol. simply use the EQ as your ‘Testosterone ‘ basis, and add Deca and or Dbol to this (that way you use EQ for what its best for , you get the increase appetite, and you get all the strength and awesome gains that come with deca/dbol). AND you get to run way way less Test in the process (just throw in like 150mg a week)

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBossView
    If I owned cattle, I would certainly be pumping those bad boys to the max with test, deca and eq to get the most meat possible. Then when you eat them you’re getting some good gear in your meat… I’ve been able to find the large bottles of pfizer equipoise here in south america at a livestock veterinarian for around $700 for 50ml at 250mg which is more expensive than I would like to be paying. Maybe it would be a better idea to buy raw powders and make your own and experiment on some cows…

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmanView
    wikipedia
    Drostanolone propionate , through its active form, drostanolone, interacts with RA and activates a cascade of genetic alterations, including increased protein synthesis (anabolism) and decreased amino acid degradation (catabolism). It also induces a reduction or inhibition of prolactin or estrogen receptors in the breast, which is associated with their antitumor effects.

    its good to see guys like Davimeireles paying attention to posts with an open mind and taking his time to do his own research as well

    OldBoy
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    phase 1 – volumization phase
    week 1-8
    Test 500
    Deca 400
    Proviron 25mg day

    Phase 2 – Anabolic Phase
    weeks 9-14
    Test 200
    Deca 200
    Primo 600

    phase 3 – finisher
    Weeks 15-18
    test 200
    Primo 600
    Var 50mg per day

    you get long enough runs of each compound yet are still able to rotate the compounds over 3 phases .

    each phase has its own unique synergy .
    phase 1 – the test and deca together will volumize you and add some fullness . the proviron will help mitigate sides of higher dose deca
    phase 2 – very anabolic. deca and primo together are a tag team for building new tissue
    phase 3 – just a finisher to help you acclimate to your gains. Primo and Var will will help you hold on to tissue even if your calories drop off

    OldBoy
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    you all know what I’m going to say , right ?
    run both !
    actually , I would simply add one bottle of mast prop as an extra to ‘front load’. your mast e. so get the mast E you need to run the cycle, but add one bottle of mast P to front load the mast e.
    basically this will get the mast kicking in a bit quicker and you’ll get more out of your 10 week cycle.

    weeks 1-2
    Mast P – 150mg 3x per week
    Mast E – 600mg per week

    weeks 2-10
    Mast E – 600mg per week

    running that one bottle of Mast P, along with the Mast E that first week or two will get things going a bit quicker.

    just an idea.. if you don’t want to get fancy, then just run the Mast E . I use mast P a lot myself, but usually for front loads or for burst cycles or short blasts (4 weeks or so).. a 10 week cycle the mast e just makes more sense

    OldBoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiftingLeviView
    I won the lotto yesterday. Went into my glute, and since I had tren I was like oh yeah I’m aspirating. I just instantly saw a stream of blood filling the syringe lol. Pulled out changed the head and moved the spot, easy injection. The blood bubbles looked badass in the test/tren mix too

    yes this does happen, its mainly from penetrating through a vein. IF you would not of aspirated and simply injected, the oil would of blown out or blown back the vein and the gear would of still ended up in the muscle end not in the blood stream (though you would of had a bruise). of course a little bit of the Tren may get into the blood stream ,, thats when your lungs begin to burn your body gets all flushed and you can’t breath for a good 15 mins. fun stuff

    OldBoy
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    note – one of the best places to learn about steroids is NOT from the stupid ‘bro’ steroid profiles you see online .. its to dig deep and study veterinary medicine . lots of good info on steroid use in vet medicine .

    heck even ‘sources’ to purchase quality AAS . look at buying vet medicine if you can . people will say well thats not human grade.. umm well its likely better then human grade. Horses for example have very weak immune systems compared to humans, one bad dirty injection can kill them. you own a 100k race horse, believe me your not going to be wanting to inject it with dirty EQ. so most veterinary grade AAS is super clean and high quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by BekasView
    You think the caffeine makes t3 work less? The two combined definitely make me feel like im molten lol

    its mainly that caffeine can effect the absorption of the med through the intestinal wall. so you may end up getting less of a dosage.
    I’ve heard of caffeine limiting effects at the receptor level as well, but would need to read back up on that to say so with any confidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGregorView
    I can’t decide which compound to stack testosterone enanthate with. I’m bulking right now and i’m not going to stop until i reach 100 kg (220 lbs). I’m scared of nandrolone because of the erectile dysfunction i might get. Trenbolone is going to ruin my sleep and it’s going to cost a lot of money. At the end of the day i might buy more testosterone.

    well Tren is definitely not your answer. its really not the best bulker at all , in fact many guys run it thinking they will put on size and they end up losing weight. to bulk with Tren you really have to implement some more advanced protocols.

    Deca is good. to avoid erectile issues just make sure you run something like Masteron with it (which blunts prolactin and is androgenic ) and of course test.
    test, deca, dbol is a proven bulking combo.

    IF you PCT though and want to recover optimal natty testosterone levels then neither deca or tren are great options as they will severely shut you down and recovery is the hardest with those two compounds.

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