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  • neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    well you’d need to do the actual math. just because a single "package" of something seems cheap doesn’t mean it is cheap.
    does your package of Proviron contain 160 tabs , or just 20 tabs. you would need 160 total tabs to equal 2 bottles of Masteron (which is 4000mg total) . same with the caber, do the math on running an effective dose of that over 12 weeks and the add that to the 4000mg of proviron you would need.
    I’m sure when you total it all up, mg per mg, the caber and proviron are more expensive then two bottles of Mast

    Didn’t know the actual doses of caber or proviron needed , although I didn’t mean to run a cycle with caber , just use it same way I would use adex, to counter prolactin issues , but since deca dose is low I ll probably be fine

    neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    highly unlikely . Proviron by itself dose for dose is more expensive then Mast ,, let alone adding in a $70 bottle of Caber

    Bought dostinex from pharmacy 20euros for 8×0.5
    And proviron 3 euros for the 25 mg package .
    Maybe where u live is very expensive or idk .
    Maybe I leave in Gymrats paradise .
    I ll just buy mast as well since I see u recommend it everywhere , I must give it a shot .

    neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix7View
    Iirc, mast hasn’t been made in a pharma prep for sometime, even though it’s still approved in most countries pharmacopoeia. As such, UGLs would be the primary source. Here in the US, Mast P tends to run around $45-55 per gram (100mg/ml 10 ml) and Mast E around 55-65 per two grams (200mg/ml).

    Then it’s more expensive than proviron and caber together .
    I ll check the pricing here although my provider is senting me stuff from a pharma company from China.so far so good and thanks for the replies

    neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindexView
    In Canada pharma dostinex unscripted is $300 it’s bananas. For the same price you could run 350mg of Mast for 16-18 weeks.

    In Greece u buy unscripted drugs like candies .
    Bought dostinex unscripted for 30Ђ If I can recall .
    What’s the avg price of mast?

    neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    phase 1 – volumization phase
    week 1-8
    Test 500
    Deca 400
    Proviron 25mg day

    Phase 2 – Anabolic Phase
    weeks 9-14
    Test 200
    Deca 200
    Primo 600

    phase 3 – finisher
    Weeks 15-18
    test 200
    Primo 600
    Var 50mg per day

    you get long enough runs of each compound yet are still able to rotate the compounds over 3 phases .

    each phase has its own unique synergy .
    phase 1 – the test and deca together will volumize you and add some fullness . the proviron will help mitigate sides of higher dose deca
    phase 2 – very anabolic. deca and primo together are a tag team for building new tissue
    phase 3 – just a finisher to help you acclimate to your gains. Primo and Var will will help you hold on to tissue even if your calories drop off

    Exactly what I was looking for since I had no idea on what doses to swap to .
    Is the use of dostinex necessary when you use deca ?
    It’s my first time using deca , don’t know what to look for .
    Thanks a lot Gh.

    neadl3
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    Taking Drugs to prevent sides that might happen will fuck you up even harder.
    Test e at 500mg is a pretty simple cycle and u wont see many sides .
    Anastrozole is a cancer drug and should be used only if necessary and not to prevent stuff because it might as well crush ur estro to the ground.
    If you are predisposed to hair loss , there is no drug that would help prevent it but only minimize it(finestaride) .
    For infertility its smart to use HCG like pregnyl or ovitrelle , but again 500mg of test for few months aint gonna do shit to you .
    Start injecting and if u experience bloating , high blood pressure , start taking anastrozole at 0.25 x4 week or 0.5mg twice per week, if you experience gyno ( not by toudark_sideng your chest like a weirdo , gyno hurts) use Nolvadex at 20mg/day till its gone .
    Remember do not panic or start theorycrafting with google , brain is a hell of a drug.

    neadl3
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    Any other recommendation on how to swap between the compounds mentioned ? And in what dosages ?
    neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix7View
    No need to over complicate then. Test at 500-600, deca at 300-400 and you’re golden.
    You can throw in the Anavar if you want, but I don’t see it being all that useful for that kind of cycle. Masteron would be a more appropriate DHT instead of using an AI or SERM, or if you had Anadrol I’d toss that in over the var.
    Since you do have proviron though, you could theoretically use that to help stave off DHN related Deca sides, though at 300-400 it’s likely unnecessary unless trying to run low test, which it doesn’t sound like you want to do.
    Caber is entirely too expensive (and unnecessary) an ancillary to run unless you’re extremely prone to prolactin sides.

    12-15 weeks of the aforementioned test and deca doses should give you a lot without getting needlessly complicated. I’d recommend hiring an actual AAS coach if you’re wanting to do a bunch of cycle swapping if you’re not already familiar with how you respond to all of the compounds.

    I was thinking of swapping deca with primo and var during summer . What do u think ?
    I ll probably go for 750-250 test/deca or 700/300

    neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix7View
    Right, but I meant dosages of each. 300 test and 500 deca could be a lot different for you than 500 test and 300 deca.

    Your 1g cap could be anything from 725 test and 275 Anavar to anything in between.

    Test was 500-750 in my past cycles and rest was filled with anabolics. I had no estrogenic sides and was feeling really good on that androgen dose .

    neadl3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix7View
    Cycle history would be helpful. What did you run at before and how did it go?

    I’m personally currently running 500 test e, 300 deca, and dbol dosed in a tapering down fashion from 50/day over the 12 weeks. No ancillaries involved at all. Feeling great and performance is up, but that may or may not happen for you.

    Previous cycles were test + anabolics (anavar , anadrol ,provi) at 1gr per week , no more .

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