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Originally Posted by ojm3

Do that and you’ll stay shut down longer. HCG mimics LH hormone. Put it in your body during PCT and your body WILL NOT produce the needed LH on its own to stimulate natty test production. Why? Cause like the juice add test and your body stops producing it. Add HCG and your body says hey im good on LH there is plenty here the balls down low are already working! Though they arent. So while your doing your PCT your tricking your HTPA into thinking its producing LH cause its picking it up in the bloodstream. But instead your just ****ing yourself in the end. Youll be through 4 weeks of pct and your balls still wont produce cause your nolva and clomid battle estrogen and enable your body to try to stimulate LH production. But your injecting HCG which mimics LH so your body never starts to produce on its own.

thanks for the reply you actually the only one so far that making any sense
HOWEVERRRRRR
I knew this already and I was not planning to do HCG during the whole PCT
the HCG is just the first stage of PIU
I was going to use it only for 10days to wake them up for example first shot after the test cleared my body I will do a 2000-2500IU shot EOD (2 shots total)
then 1000iu Everyday for 8 days -10days and then ill stop HCG and switch to clomid+nolva and maybe aromasin as well
basically the HCG is just to wake them up which works very well (this is what doctors do after patients have been shut down for awhile)

sure you can say why not just do HCG during a cycle to help this but ive done that and when PCT came I was still just as shut down (you couldnt be more shutdown than what I was lol so whats the point waisting HCG) rather blast it at the end with better results

I also used aromasin to keep E2 in range during the whole cycle

after PCT I did a blood test and I still still shut down at 270ng/dl

Originally Posted by xzed

Taking hcg during cycle does not make sense. Here why:

FALSEuring cycle your LH is suppressed. I have to take hcg to increase.
TRUE: During cycle your testo levels are high incredibly. HCG cant do anything while you have this much testo on your blood. Because your lh is primarly follow your testo(negative feedback). At the same time hcg dosage advised from you is very low. Your body won’t recognize any
hcg if you won’t decrease your testo level. I was on 2.month of my cycle. Alwaya xheceked testo and lh levels and they were stable. And started hcg on 3. month. After a month my testo levels and lh were exactly SAME.

FALSE: when i finish my cycle after stopping testo, my lh will increase and and while its increased its wrong to take hcg
TRUE: Your lh will not increase after cycle for a long time. Check your lood levels after cycle and see whats going on. Your lh will try to increase but It will take time. This where hcg have to kick in. Hcg is for hipogonodotrophic hipogonadizm which explains everything.
Check pubmed articles and read pregnyl treatment informations. You cant see dosage and treatment types which talking here

I agree with you 10000%
I took HCG on cycle at 250iu x 2 a week during the whole 14 weeks that i was on
I got blood done after I finished test and I was completly shut down
HCG did not do anything for me, just wasted HCG

what doses would you say are good and how often after a 14-20week test cycle?