Test E – Bold – primo – Libido question

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    • October 30, 2020 at 5:54 am
    Nutcase
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    Cliff notes:

    *Predisposed to anxiety
    *test+ deca in my teens (stupid)= bad anxiety, stopped half way through
    *test only last year= God mode, great libido and mood
    *test primobolan boldenon this year= low libido, moderate anxiety
    *Want to stop boldenon or primo for a week or 2 to figure out which one is giving me the negative effects.
    *Is this ok? Pimo could be fake maybe?

    Hi guys,

    I’m 26, been training for a few years.
    When i was a lot younger and a lot dumber i ran some test and deca, which gave me really bad anxiety attacks as i am already predisposed to anxiety. (not the depressed, attention seeking "oh look at me my lifes so hard" type, the type that gives me physical symptoms, shortness of breath, tingling, cold/hot parts of the body, just feel very uncomfortable in general)

    Last year i ran a Test E only cycle, most of it was at 1.5ml (375mg) per week but i did go up as high as 2ml/500mg for 2 weeks.
    During that time i felt amazing. Happy, motivated, horny as hell, and just felt like a beast in general.

    This year im running Test E, Bold, and Primo
    Im in week 6, the test has been at 500mg the whole time, bold has been at 300mg primo at 300mg
    The whole time ive been on ive had a decreased libido, and 0 wellbeing benfits that i had in my last cycle, if anything my general well being is worse than wen i was off and my anxiety pops up occasionally. I can have sex, but there’s not much desire to.

    I would like to try and figure out which compound out of the bold or primo is having this effect, so that i can continue to run the other 2. So if it was the bold i could remove that from the cycle and just hit more primo in its place, or vice versa. I was thinking of just skipping the primo this week and seeing if things improved, and if they do, then i know its the primo or vice versa with the bold.

    I’ve also heard that a very large percentage of primo is fake, and people put other compounds in its place and just say its primo. If someone put deca in a primo bottle and sold that, and it made its way to my guy, then that could be the reason.
    My question is simply will it be ok to just stop one of the 2 compounds and see what happens?

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    • October 30, 2020 at 6:44 am
    Nutcase
    Member
    Anyone?
    • October 30, 2020 at 9:37 am
    Domus
    Member
    300mg of primo is not going to cause this. It won’t even cause any results either. But what is your AI? Good time to get blood work to see where you stand.
    • October 30, 2020 at 11:34 am
    Nutcase
    Member
    What about boldenon?

    Also as i said in the post if the primobolan is not primobolan but something else like deca , (since primobolan is faked very frequently) then this could be the issue as well, thats why i was going to stop the primo first and see how i go

    • November 5, 2020 at 5:39 am
    Domus
    Member
    EQ wouldn’t really cause this. So stop the primo. What are you taking for an AI, you didn’t answer that yet.
    • November 5, 2020 at 7:01 am
    Nutcase
    Member
    Sorry, i was taking liquidex, 0.5mg ED since i’m very sensitive to estro but i switched it out for tamoxifen because i had read that it arimidex can cause loss of libido, and i couldnt find any other reason why i would be experiencing it and thank you for your replies

    • November 5, 2020 at 7:58 am
    Domus
    Member
    Adex does not cause loss of libido. Crushing your E2 with it will however. How do you know you’re sensitive? You getting regular blood work? Not many people (barely anyone really) needs .5 every day. You need to switch gears here… stop playing the guessing game and get your blood levels checked, I suspect you crushed your estrogen. In which case tamox will not help you.
    • November 5, 2020 at 8:56 am
    Nutcase
    Member
    I got gyno just going through puberty, not full blown, but i got a small hard nub under my left nipple. After my last cycle, using only tamoxifen , a month after the cycle i stopped the tamoxifen and the little nub from when i was 16 came back but never got worse, so i left it. Thats why i was taking 0.5 ED. but when my libido was gone i thought it was the liquidex and stopped it all together, and straight away my nipples got sensitive as hell and puffy, so i started on the tamoxifen and they went back to normal.

    As for blood work, i would love to, since i hate this guessing game as well, it plays with my head not knowing for sure whats going on.
    But every doctor that i know of find it unimaginable that someone would take AAS. My family doctor started telling me i was going to get cancer and live a short life and all this rubbish all because of 375mg of test E lol

    and its been the same every time i bring it up to a doc, i get the head shake and lectures with no real answers

    • November 5, 2020 at 10:22 am
    Domus
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by NutcaseView
    I got gyno just going through puberty, not full blown, but i got a small hard nub under my left nipple. After my last cycle, using only tamoxifen , a month after the cycle i stopped the tamoxifen and the little nub from when i was 16 came back but never got worse, so i left it. Thats why i was taking 0.5 ED. but when my libido was gone i thought it was the liquidex and stopped it all together, and straight away my nipples got sensitive as hell and puffy, so i started on the tamoxifen and they went back to normal.

    As for blood work, i would love to, since i hate this guessing game as well, it plays with my head not knowing for sure whats going on.
    But every doctor that i know of find it unimaginable that someone would take AAS. My family doctor started telling me i was going to get cancer and live a short life and all this rubbish all because of 1.5ml of test E lol

    and its been the same every time i bring it up to a doc

    There really is no reason to tell the doc that you’re cycling. And you can get blood work done without that doc, you can get panels ordered online.

    Brother, you need to get your blood work done. I can predict that your hematocrit levels are high, your RBC’s are high, your estrogen is crushed and you probably have some poor liver values. And most of this is probably from your cycles last year, which I can safely assume since you never got blood work, that you’ve never donated any blood. Pretty scary man, you’re playing with fire.

    Find another doc or get your panels online. You need to get your liver values, a complete blood count, a sensitive e2 assay and a full metabolic panel just to start with…

    Good luck and I hope you listen to me and make an effort to get your blood checked.

    • November 5, 2020 at 11:40 am
    Nutcase
    Member
    Would i have done that much damage from only 375mg of test a week for 15 weeks last year? because thats all ive done other than this cycle.
    If you think all that stuff couldve happened from one test only cycle last year then ill go and get it checked for sure
    • November 5, 2020 at 1:09 pm
    Domus
    Member
    ^ yes. My hCT and RBC’s get high from a TRT dose that’s less than half of that. Get your blood work and bring it back here for critique, we can help you break it down and let you know what you need to do.
    • November 5, 2020 at 2:39 pm
    Nutcase
    Member
    OK will do, thanks a lot for the help and information, much appreciated
    • November 5, 2020 at 3:59 pm
    Domus
    Member
    No problem. Keep us posted please.
    • November 5, 2020 at 4:49 pm
    Nutcase
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by DomusView
    No problem. Keep us posted please.

    Hi, im going to the doctors today to order a blood test finally, since im only running 500mg/wk test enanthate now, and tamoxifen , and my libido is still low and anxiety still high.

    So far from what i understand i have to get Estriadol, Hematocrit and RBC checked.

    If im running tamoxifen (my Adex hasnt got here yet) and i get my E levels checked, will they be high since tamoxifen doesnt actually get rid of the estrogen and simply blocks it? Or will the test tell me how much estrogen is binding to the receptors? and if not, how can i tell whether the tamoxifen is working or not, since im using tamoxifen from a research company, and i never had any of these issues last cycle since i was using pharma grade tamoxifen.

    Also would RBC or hematocrit have any effect on my my libido which is still low? The last time i ran test i was a sexual tyrannosaurus now im a freakin poodle lol could prolactin be an issue? Should i add that to the blood test?

    Thanks for being patient with me i know you probably get stupid questions like this all the time

    • November 5, 2020 at 5:50 pm
    Nutcase
    Member
    bump
    • November 10, 2020 at 12:53 am
    Domus
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by NutcaseView
    Hi, im going to the doctors today to order a blood test finally, since im only running 500mg/wk test enanthate now, and tamoxifen , and my libido is still low and anxiety still high.

    So far from what i understand i have to get Estriadol, Hematocrit and RBC checked.

    If im running tamoxifen (my Adex hasnt got here yet) and i get my E levels checked, will they be high since tamoxifen doesnt actually get rid of the estrogen and simply blocks it? Or will the test tell me how much estrogen is binding to the receptors? and if not, how can i tell whether the tamoxifen is working or not, since im using tamoxifen from a research company, and i never had any of these issues last cycle since i was using pharma grade tamoxifen.

    Also would RBC or hematocrit have any effect on my my libido which is still low? The last time i ran test i was a sexual tyrannosaurus now im a freakin poodle lol could prolactin be an issue? Should i add that to the blood test?

    Thanks for being patient with me i know you probably get stupid questions like this all the time

    Hematocrit and RBC are in your CBC panel along with other results.

    Only blood work will tell your E2 levels, not something we want to play a guessing game with…. (but most likely high)

    RBC/hCT being high can result in fatigue or sluggishness. Diminished energy can affect your libido. I know I feel like crap with high levels. You can get prolactin, doesn’t hurt. (but I don’t see what would trigger that)

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