Steroids similar to anavar

Originally Posted by Godzilla

tbol or primo

Which has the most lean muscle mass gain out of Turinabol , Winstrol , Anavar and Primo? Also which one promotes the most fat loss?

Originally Posted by Godzilla

Tbol will get you the most gains. Gains really dpend on how much food you eat but with everything similiar T-bol. For fat-loss is the AAS that binds to the AR receptor in the fat cell the hardest. Primo, Anavar, and Winny are all DHT dert. which bind very hard to the AR receptor, thus will promote more fatloss. Again fat-loss depends on your calorie cut but I notice with Anavar you can go real low on kals and retain your muscle mass.

Yeah okay. Is Turinabol also not very harsh, similar to Anavar ? Is it not as harsh as Dianabol , Anadrol etc?

Originally Posted by sharmabrah

Which has the most lean muscle mass gain out of Turinabol, Winstrol, Anavar and Primo? Also which one promotes the most fat loss?

If your using anavar at 100mg’s a day its by far the better choice.

Originally Posted by sharmabrah

If one does not want to inject and/or ever do hardcore AAS (Tren, Testosterone etc) then Anavar is very good. I’m actually thinking of doing an eight week cycle of Anavar and Dianabol – Dianabol for the first three weeks (at a low dose, probably 20MG or 30MG a day), then for the next five weeks have some anavar (first two weeks at 30MG a day, then the next three weeks at either 50MG or 60MG). Supplemented with Liv52 or TUDCA/UDCA, Nolvadex and an AI on hand. Anavar should, theoretically, help to maintain the weight created by the Dianabol, yes? As well as packing on some LBM and giving you a harder look as opposed to a soft bloated look.

Sharmabrah!!!!! Bro what happened!?! Only a few weeks ago you were on here saying you had no plans to cycle for a long time and you were going to invest your time, money, and energy into training and diet. Now you’re condoning and admitting to cycling at young ages.

Again, this isn’t a judgement call bradda. It’s your life, your body, your decision but when I see and hear things like this it makes me wonder about the sincerity of some of the younger guys who say, "oh no, I won’t cycle. I’m just here to learn".

I guess the vets who have been around longer than I are more familiar with this and aren’t phased by these things anymore because it is far too common. My bad for being naive.

Just try not to hurt yourself and don’t fool yourself thinking steroids are benign.

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Sharmabrah!!!!! Bro what happened!?! Only a few weeks ago you were on here saying you had no plans to cycle for a long time and you were going to invest your time, money, and energy into training and diet. Now you’re condoning and admitting to cycling at young ages.

Again, this isn’t a judgement call bradda. It’s your life, your body, your decision but when I see and hear things like this it makes me wonder about the sincerity of some of the younger guys who say, "oh no, I won’t cycle. I’m just here to learn".

I guess the vets who have been around longer than I are more familiar with this and aren’t phased by these things anymore because it is far too common. My bad for being naive.

Just try not to hurt yourself and don’t fool yourself thinking steroids are benign.

Things happen in life mate that result in different circumstances than initially expected. I was sincere, still am sincere but shit sucks sometimes mate.

Originally Posted by Steroyden

MuscleInk thank you for your sincere advice I really appreciate it. The reality is though that I’m not just training as a strength athlete I do a competitive varsity sport at a University level where to be honest we are forced into overtraining. My body honestly breaks down doing the training naturally even with good diet and sleep habits. When I was on Var however I made not only strength improvements but also technically improved at my sport drastically and began to enjoy my sport much more because i wasn’t so worn out all the time. So for my next cycle which i most likely will do how in my shoes would you go about it differently. Would you stack a little nolvadex with var or only use it for pct. I have heard var can shut you down somewhat so i take tribulus fenugreek and longjack route to try and support my natural testosterone somewhat. Is this sufficient? What are you thoughts? I would really appreciate your advice.

Ya var will shut you down. How much did you run again and for what time period? I normally use nolva for PCT. You thought about hcg at all to restart natty test?

Tribulus doesn’t really do much. Recent studies suggest d-aspartic acid may be better at facilitating test production but not sure how conclusive the data is on that.

Originally Posted by Steroyden

I ran 40 mg a day for 50 days, but am thinking of running it at 60. What are your thoughts on this? I read the sites article on HCG and it said water retention and possible gyno where side effects. How do i avoid these. Would you run hcg at the same time as var or just for pct? Same question for nolva

Some run var in the range of 50-150g daily, 7 days, 8-12 weeks. Sides vary but at 75mg or greater daily hepatotoxicity and GI problems become greater issues and need careful management. Hcg can be run at either point. I’ve seen it during, post and sometimes within the last 14 days of a cycle. Protocols vary dependent on dosing and other compounds. Nolva is more typical after. Adex or letro can help with gyno.

I’ve run var at 100mg daily for 16 weeks but followed very careful management of LFTs and had them checked mid cycle for peace of mind. I did suffer from a lot of uncomfortable chronic GERD however. I ran hcg post but my var was part of a larger stack.