How much to gain from first cycle?

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    • November 5, 2020 at 6:56 am
    RangerTX
    Member
    Hi everyone, so I’ve been training for 3 years and i’m going to start my first cycle which will be 500mg test e and 300mg deca for 12 weeks. How much should I expect to gain from this cycle on average?

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    • November 5, 2020 at 8:04 am
    OldBoy
    Member
    nothing ,, unless we see your training and diet set up drugs don’t work without the co factors
    • November 5, 2020 at 9:30 am
    RangerTX
    Member
    I workout 5 days a week (Chest- Back- Day off- Shoulders- Arms- Legs- Day off) and consume around 3500 calories (40-40-20 ratio) with 8 hours of sleep per day.
    • November 5, 2020 at 10:24 am
    Test Monsterone
    Member
    There is no way to know because you may be a hyper responder, a non-responder, or anywhere in between. If you are near your genetic potential, gains will likely be less than they would be if you were further away from your genetic potential. I would say if you gained 10 – 15 lbs, that would be good.
    • November 5, 2020 at 11:37 am
    OldBoy
    Member

    I gained around 30 pounds my first cycle ,, kept it all and gained another 20 or so over the years. but I was a skinny cardio guy (cyclist and runner) to begin with .

    what you gain is somewhat dependent on your starting point

    • November 5, 2020 at 12:38 pm
    renepjd
    Member
    [quote=gearheaded; but i was a skinny cardio guy [/quote]

    wtf….

    • November 5, 2020 at 1:55 pm
    OldBoy
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by renepjdView
    wtf….

    decades ago .. I learned a lot being a sponsored high level cyclist and running 19 minute 5ks … thats where I started my nutrition journey.
    obviously looking back , not happy with the physique at all doing that shit .. but a bit of food , some test, heavy weights and dropping the cardio over kill worked pretty good

    • November 5, 2020 at 3:21 pm
    < <Samson> >
    Member
    ^ That’s one cycle?! lol

    It just depends – on my 1st cycle I went from 175(ish) to 244

    How much fat, water Vs. lbm? well

    I’d say 12Lbs of true lbm

    the rest? < well, it wasn’t an idea 1st cycle(if there ever is one)

    • November 5, 2020 at 4:53 pm
    renepjd
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    decades ago .. I learned a lot being a sponsored high level cyclist and running 19 minute 5ks … thats where I started my nutrition journey.
    obviously looking back , not happy with the physique at all doing that shit .. but a bit of food , some test, heavy weights and dropping the cardio over kill worked pretty good

    Speaking of cardio work. Just saw a news clip where Tiger Woods said his biggest regret physically was running multiple miles every day. It destroyed his knees and back. Thought that was interesting.

    • November 5, 2020 at 5:44 pm
    Proximal
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by renepjdView
    Speaking of cardio work. Just saw a news clip where Tiger Woods said his biggest regret physically was running multiple miles every day. It destroyed his knees and back. Thought that was interesting.

    Don’t doubt it.

    • November 5, 2020 at 7:16 pm
    Mr Anderson
    Member
    Fuck running fucks your joints…
    Get a bike
    • November 10, 2020 at 1:13 am
    OldBoy
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by renepjdView
    Speaking of cardio work. Just saw a news clip where Tiger Woods said his biggest regret physically was running multiple miles every day. It destroyed his knees and back. Thought that was interesting.

    I’ve had 5 back surgeries .. I have 6 giant screws, brackets, cages, and braces holding my lower back together .. also my discs totally removed cause they were shot (running for years probably played a role)
    I’m never running again . unless its from the cops

    • November 10, 2020 at 2:40 am
    < <Samson> >
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    • November 10, 2020 at 3:44 am
    OldBoy
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >View
    Dang, how old r u n e way

    43… but lived a lot of life and feel a heck of a lot older then that

    • November 10, 2020 at 5:02 am
    < <Samson> >
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    43… but lived a lot of life and feel a heck of a lot older then that

    Fuck

    Goes along with – how much can you fuck yourself up with your 1st cycle

    • August 4, 2021 at 10:26 am
    nightflier
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >View
    ^ That’s one cycle?! lol

    It just depends – on my 1st cycle I went from 175(ish) to 244

    How much fat, water Vs. lbm? well

    I’d say 12Lbs of true lbm

    the rest? < well, it wasn’t an idea 1st cycle(if there ever is one)

    Was that one of those first cycles that lasted for 4 years? Lol

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