First cycle gone wrong, help please!

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- November 5, 2020 at 5:40 am
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Mouse
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hi guys, iam new here, the reason im posting this because im realy hopeless and hope u can help.

I run my first cycle ot 40/50 and got gyno at day 30, so i started with letro+nolva, the biggest problem is that after one week on 2,5 mg letro i felt that im losing bonemass, i wasnt sure but at first i felt it in my forearms bones ,then after 2 weeks i could clearly see it in the mirror the whole skeleton became smaller!

know after 3-4 weeks on letro i have lost som serious bonemass and strengh went down, the problem is that i have to cotinue with letro becasue iam still on my PCT, day 24, and if i stop with i will develop gynecomastia because i guess my testosteron is not high enough yet.

but im asking for help, why im losing bonemass, can letro cause so much boneloss? i can see it in the mirror everyday when i wake up that i became smaller, and the fact that i didnt lose any weight or muscle mass.
is there any thing that i can use or take to stop the boneloss?,
do u think that some bisphosphonat medicine such Fosamax can help with this??
Iam 20 years old
thankfull for any help guys!

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- November 10, 2020 at 6:56 am
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MrKilliWiggle
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Originally Posted by Mouse

hi guys, iam new here, the reason im posting this because im realy hopeless and hope u can help.

I run my first cycle ot 40/50 and got gyno at day 30, so i started with letro+nolva, the biggest problem is that after one week on 2,5 mg letro i felt that im losing bonemass, i wasnt sure but at first i felt it in my forearms bones ,then after 2 weeks i could clearly see it in the mirror the whole skeleton became smaller!

know after 3-4 weeks on letro i have lost som serious bonemass and strengh went down, the problem is that i have to cotinue with letro becasue iam still on my PCT, day 24, and if i stop with i will develop gynecomastia because i guess my testosteron is not high enough yet.

but im asking for help, why im losing bonemass, can letro cause so much boneloss? i can see it in the mirror everyday when i wake up that i became smaller, and the fact that i didnt lose any weight or muscle mass.
is there any thing that i can use or take to stop the boneloss?,
do u think that some bisphosphonat medicine such Fosamax can help with this??
Iam 20 years old
thankfull for any help guys!

This is absolutely ridiculous I’m not trying to be mean but you obviously did no research and just jumped on a cycle. What was your cycle? What was your PCT my guess is that your not loosing Bone mass but what is happening is that you have no idea how to PCT correctly and your natty test is in the dirt and so is your estrogen so your loosing what ever muscle mass you gained and also water weight you seriously need to pct correctly and letro is no joke and also your not suppose to run nolva and letro at the same time It would be redundant to use them together. They work in different ways towards the same thing. You should go see a doctor so they can correct the mistake you’ve made or maybe a veteran on here would respond and next time you should think about running a cycle do research you can ruin your whole body. Also keep in mind letro causes sore joints so that most likely what your feeling. I know Im new to this site but Im right on this.
- November 10, 2020 at 8:04 am
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Mouse
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Originally Posted by MrKilliWiggle

This is absolutely ridiculous I’m not trying to be mean but you obviously did no research and just jumped on a cycle. What was your cycle? What was your PCT my guess is that your not loosing Bone mass but what is happening is that you have no idea how to PCT correctly and your natty test is in the dirt and so is your estrogen so your loosing what ever muscle mass you gained and also water weight you seriously need to pct correctly and letro is no joke and also your not suppose to run nolva and letro at the same time It would be redundant to use them together. They work in different ways towards the same thing. You should go see a doctor so they can correct the mistake you’ve made or maybe a veteran on here would respond and next time you should think about running a cycle do research you can ruin your whole body. Also keep in mind letro causes sore joints so that most likely what your feeling. I know Im new to this site but Im right on this.

are u kidding me ? u know my body more than me? i didnt lose any mucle mass, i weight the same and , i completly understand u but i am sure that im losing bonemass, know i can take off my jeans without having to oppen the button because my hips became much smaller!!
- November 10, 2020 at 9:14 am
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david9111
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If this is a legit thread then this is a perfect example of why young kids shouldn’t be messing around with such dangerous compounds! Either go to a doctor and be honest or one of the vets on here will get you set up with a correct PCT.

P.S.- This thread has more spelling errors than any other thread I’ve read on here! Either use your browser’s spell check or type your response up in Word first to eliminate this. Just sayin…..
- November 10, 2020 at 10:10 am
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Mouse
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Originally Posted by jim230027

Estrogen levels. You got gyno cause your test levels were low and your estro levels were elevated

yes man i know that i got gyno because of low test levels, and should have run proviron through the whole cycle
so u think letro can cause bonemass, why me? i didnt see anyone on some forum who got boneloss from letro :S
- November 10, 2020 at 11:24 am
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MrKilliWiggle
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Originally Posted by Mouse

yes man i know that i got gyno because of low test levels, and should have run proviron through the whole cycle
so u think letro can cause bonemass, why me? i didnt see anyone on some forum who got boneloss from letro :S

Just because you are loosing weight in your hips does not mean your loosing bone honestly its water weight or muscle not to mention youve crashed your test and e2 levels most likely which is going make you loose water weight and muscle. You should not even have touched steroids you have no idea what your doing.
- November 10, 2020 at 12:33 pm
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Mouse
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Originally Posted by MrKilliWiggle

Just because you are loosing weight in your hips does not mean your loosing bone honestly its water weight or muscle not to mention youve crashed your test and e2 levels most likely which is going make you loose water weight and muscle. You should not even have touched steroids you have no idea what your doing.

what are u talking about? do u think i am som kid who is messing around with steroids , or dont know the different if am losing bonemass or weight ? that just ridiculous, the whole skeleton became smaller not only the hips, especially the spin, and when i feel my wrist or forearms bones i can cleary feel that they become much smaller, and just because i crushed my estrogen levels it will not make me lose muscle, and i have not.
- November 10, 2020 at 1:50 pm
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Mouse
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Originally Posted by david9111

If this is a legit thread then this is a perfect example of why young kids shouldn’t be messing around with such dangerous compounds! Either go to a doctor and be honest or one of the vets on here will get you set up with a correct PCT.

P.S.- This thread has more spelling errors than any other thread I’ve read on here! Either use your browser’s spell check or type your response up in Word first to eliminate this. Just sayin…..

young kids?, tell me on thing thats is wrong with what i have done, i had to use letro , and i am using it know to stopp the gyno, and because of that i got the problem with the boneloss, it is just something unexpected or i just have bad luck with this.
- November 10, 2020 at 3:20 pm
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Mouse
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so guys what are u recommending me to do?
- November 10, 2020 at 4:10 pm
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twinni
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Never have I heard of such extreme bone loss from letro. Stop taking what ever you are doing and see a physician immediately.

On the flip side I think this is a troll.
- November 10, 2020 at 5:13 pm
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Mondeliero
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its idiots like this this give us young ones a bad name. Absolute tool.
- November 13, 2020 at 1:31 am
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MrKilliWiggle
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Originally Posted by Mouse

young kids?, tell me on thing thats is wrong with what i have done, i had to use letro , and i am using it know to stopp the gyno, and because of that i got the problem with the boneloss, it is just something unexpected or i just have bad luck with this.

The most effective way to treat gyno IMO is letro followed by Nolva. Use the Nolva afterwards cuz when u come off the letro ur estrogen is going to rebound And the Nolva will stop any estrogen from.binding in breast tissue so using both at the same time makes no sense what so ever so there’s one thing wrong.
- November 13, 2020 at 2:24 am
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MrKilliWiggle
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This has to be a troll this just to stupid to be real if it is real your the reason young people get shit because your stupidity and lack of research and knowledge on what you are doing.
- November 13, 2020 at 3:33 am
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Mouse
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man i cant stop taking the letro for at least one more week because the estrogen levels is still elevated
no, hell no, i am not trolling, excuse my english cause i am from Sweden.
- November 13, 2020 at 4:44 am
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MrKilliWiggle
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There is no help for you here go to a doctor.
- November 13, 2020 at 5:41 am
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Mouse
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Originally Posted by MrKilliWiggle

This has to be a troll this just to stupid to be real if it is real your the reason young people get shit because your stupidity and lack of research and knowledge on what you are doing.

i know that mate , u have a point! but it just effect it by almost 30-40%
and i had to use the nolva for recovering u know i am still on my pct, if i stop with the nolva it may develop more gyno because the burning feeling is not gone yet.