Dbol Cycle gaining a little slower

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    • October 30, 2020 at 4:48 am
    Fobos
    Member
    Been on for 4 weeks so far, gained 16lbs but gains are starting to come a little slower and starting to feel less pumped, should i up to 40mgs or just stay at 30 for the last 4 weeks?
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    • November 13, 2020 at 2:54 am
    Fobos
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting DogView
    Also in order to put on that much fat and/or muscle in 8 weeks you would need to be eating 1625 calories above maintenance.
    So please do tell…

    How much were you eating every day?

    probably somewhere around 4000kc
    i havent kept a strict diet routine, ive eaten everything as long as its healthy, dark_sidecken, beef, pork, potatoes, rice, eggs, almonds, nuts, etc + 1-2 gainer shakes a day (depending on how lazy i am in the morning)

    • November 13, 2020 at 4:19 am
    PT1982
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by FobosView
    update: first week off after 8 week dbol only
    pct: half a week of 20mg nolva
    weight: 2lbs lost, so now 26lbs gain from cycle

    do i feel like shit: no
    does my dick work: yes

    i have no idea why you people think dbol only gives waterweight and that i would ruin my life, lolz

    It doesn’t only give water weight, but mostly in a case such as yours. Test included would have had more lbm, and I’m assuming you didn’t run an AI, which is a no no with a highly aromatase dbol cycle. That much weight in 4 weeks, you have to believe it’s water mostly. Maybe a couple of pounds lean mass. Water retention can be very hazardous and lead to extremely high bp. I’ve read over everything here and everyone is on point and Water flaming you. You just have to prep for this lifestyle and make sure you know the ins and outs.

    • November 13, 2020 at 5:18 am
    Fobos
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by PT1982View
    It doesn’t only give water weight, but mostly in a case such as yours. Test included would have had more lbm, and I’m assuming you didn’t run an AI, which is a no no with a highly aromatase dbol cycle. That much weight in 4 weeks, you have to believe it’s water mostly. Maybe a couple of pounds lean mass. Water retention can be very hazardous and lead to extremely high bp. I’ve read over everything here and everyone is on point and Water flaming you. You just have to prep for this lifestyle and make sure you know the ins and outs.

    yeah but am i missing something?
    water sheds after a week and ive only lost 2lbs so far?

    • November 13, 2020 at 6:38 am
    ZXY2
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by FobosView
    yeah but am i missing something?
    water sheds after a week and ive only lost 2lbs so far?

    Have you been as big as you are before? I dont mean fat wise, I mean did your muscle used to be as big as they are now?

    • November 13, 2020 at 8:04 am
    Fobos
    Member
    on cycle and off cycle?
    yes they look a little better even, little drier and my stomach has gotten a little flatter etc
    • November 13, 2020 at 9:00 am
    ZXY2
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by FobosView
    on cycle and off cycle?
    yes they look a little better even, little drier and my stomach has gotten a little flatter etc

    I mean were you the size you are now before and then shrank down before you started this cycle? What I am getting at is muscle memory.

    • November 13, 2020 at 9:53 am
    Fobos
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by ObspowerstrokeView
    I mean were you the size you are now before and then shrank down before you started this cycle? What I am getting at is muscle memory.

    oh yeah, no ive always been super skinny so ive never been nowhere near where i am now

    • November 13, 2020 at 11:17 am
    ZXY2
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by FobosView
    oh yeah, no ive always been super skinny so ive never been nowhere near where i am now

    Well, I can see possibly gaining that much if a man had shank from a previous peak due to muscle memory. Hope you keep it and I hope it aint water.

    • November 13, 2020 at 12:21 pm
    Fobos
    Member
    thanks, i hope so to haha
    planning my next cycle atm which will start in may, thinking something easy like 30mg dbol for 2 weeks as a kickstart and 10-12 weeks of test, 3weeks 400mg, 5weeks 500mg and 2weeks 400mg again, does that sound reasonable?

    • November 13, 2020 at 1:14 pm
    PT1982
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by FobosView
    yeah but am i missing something?
    water sheds after a week and ive only lost 2lbs so far?

    A week to shed isn’t based on anything. It could remain for quite some time. It’s caused by the aromatase enzyme that is combated by using an AI. Had an AI been used, maybe a week it would have dropped. But had an AI been used, you may have had no issues with water to begin with. I don’t know about most here, but when I’m on, stored water is my enemy. Nothing worse to me than to hold water. It drives me crazy and I’m very ocd about it.

    • November 13, 2020 at 2:35 pm
    PT1982
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by FobosView
    thanks, i hope so to haha
    planning my next cycle atm which will start in may, thinking something easy like 30mg dbol for 2 weeks as a kickstart and 10-12 weeks of test, 3weeks 400mg, 5weeks 500mg and 2weeks 400mg again, does that sound reasonable?

    NO! It does not sound reasonable. Start a new thread when it’s time and we’ll iron out the details. It’s too early to be pre planning your next cycle right now. Focus in on your diet and training so that when you are ready for another go, you’ll have all the other steps covered and can St07 solely on your new cycle then.

    • November 13, 2020 at 4:05 pm
    PT1982
    Member
    To add, using dbol as a kickstart doesn’t mean you run it 2 weeks solo, then add test. It doesn’t work that way. The idea is to start getting quick results by the dbol while waiting on the test to kick in and take over. Then you drop the dbol. Test dose should be the same from day 1 until last pin.

    • November 13, 2020 at 5:34 pm
    ZXY2
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by PT1982View
    NO! It does not sound reasonable. Start a new thread when it’s time and we’ll iron out the details. It’s too early to be pre planning your next cycle right now. Focus in on your diet and training so that when you are ready for another go, you’ll have all the other steps covered and can St07 solely on your new cycle then.

    Agree with that. Four weeks of dbol with test. Dbol is hepatoxic and you wanna drop it quick. Just a kickstarter and about all I get from it is a pump I love.

    • November 13, 2020 at 6:31 pm
    Xself
    Member
    How’s the TRT regimen coming along then?
    I hope you get that settled quick,
    but I somehow doubt it, as your bloodwork will be influenced by you doing cycles.
    I’ve heard of guys with very low T using DBOL as TRT before,
    but it’s neither healthy or something that will work for most (there’s always the odd case) in the long run.

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