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Originally Posted by Slacker78
I’ve always relied on high amounts of androgens for con prep clients (and water manipulation).. but I do know of coaches that recommend Nolva to help blunt estrogenic water retention, fat accumulation, and not just gyno prevention . I think that is very person dependent though.
so I’d say its worth it for you to give it a try and stay on the Nolva and see how it works for you
Originally Posted by OldBoyYes i will do. I’m doing 10mg/ED of Nolva for the moment. My body is prone to getting fat and water in the lower abdomen area and around the nipples, at the base of the pectoral; someone call this lypomastia and not gyno. Actually it seems gyno but it’s very soft and it seems to be fat and water around ( you can see it a bit in my avatar ).
I think the same, im very sensitive to oestrogen and with only 1ml / week of Sustanon , the level up a lot.I try with only 10mg of Nolvadex , and he’s working very well.
I’m not sure if he’s work if the cycle are like Test Enanthate / sustanon with Anadrol for exemple, but with test only or test + Dbol that’s worked perfectly for me.@Slacker78 from my experience, i used in the past Dbol (HG) 5mg , and up slowly to 10 and 15 mg, i try to take before 1h of training and the other part after, the water retention are not excessive like Anadrol, so if you eat clean i think it’s great for quality gain, but the little excessive water retention left after the cycle.
About the feeling, Dbol made me feel like angel, but from 15mg, i feel angry (i tried with 20-40 and 50mg and it’s impressive, but the liver cry a lot) the acnee on arms / back / pec are systematic, with only 5mg i have some boutons and when i up the dose i have more acnee / boutons.
The feeling when you train are awesome, i dont have pain with like Stanozolol on bone / joint, the skin look great (except about acne on certain parts of the body)
I never used Anavar , i think you need low bodyfat to enjoy at the max this compound, like Masteron .
Stanozolol give only lean mass but from my personnal experience, he’s hurt a lot the join, i have lot muscle cramp, the cardio are not easy with Stanozolol because the calves congested so much that I have to stop (the feeling as if the calf went explose lol) I think it needs a lot of nitrogen / azote, which causes big muscle pain. And i dont talk about the tendinitis …
So Dbol are great for lean mass, but take care a lot about dosage, try to get genuine Dbol and up slowly, if your happy with 10-15mg dont up your dosage, take lot Milk Thistle ( i use Milk Thistle with 80% Silymarine and i add Liv52 with it, i dont have TUDCA in my country ) try to know your redblood cells too,with liver / cholesterol etc. ..
Originally Posted by lundgrenI think the same, im very sensitive to oestrogen and with only 1ml / week of Sustanon , the level up a lot.I try with only 10mg of Nolvadex , and he’s working very well.
I’m not sure if he’s work if the cycle are like Test Enanthate / sustanon with Anadrol for exemple, but with test only or test + Dbol that’s worked perfectly for me.@Slacker78 from my experience, i used in the past Dbol (HG) 5mg , and up slowly to 10 and 15 mg, i try to take before 1h of training and the other part after, the water retention are not excessive like Anadrol, so if you eat clean i think it’s great for quality gain, but the little excessive water retention left after the cycle.
About the feeling, Dbol made me feel like angel, but from 15mg, i feel angry (i tried with 20-40 and 50mg and it’s impressive, but the liver cry a lot) the acnee on arms / back / pec are systematic, with only 5mg i have some boutons and when i up the dose i have more acnee / boutons.
The feeling when you train are awesome, i dont have pain with like Stanozolol on bone / joint, the skin look great (except about acne on certain parts of the body)
I never used Anavar , i think you need low bodyfat to enjoy at the max this compound, like Masteron .
Stanozolol give only lean mass but from my personnal experience, he’s hurt a lot the join, i have lot muscle cramp, the cardio are not easy with Stanozolol because the calves congested so much that I have to stop (the feeling as if the calf went explose lol) I think it needs a lot of nitrogen / azote, which causes big muscle pain. And i dont talk about the tendinitis …
So Dbol are great for lean mass, but take care a lot about dosage, try to get genuine Dbol and up slowly, if your happy with 10-15mg dont up your dosage, take lot Milk Thistle ( i use Milk Thistle with 80% Silymarine and i add Liv52 with it, i dont have TUDCA in my country ) try to know your redblood cells too,with liver / cholesterol etc. ..
Yes Lundgren. I take TUDCA and NAC 2400mg every day and don’t go over 15mg/ED of Dbol and use it before training only. I constantly monitor RBC, liver and cholesterol periodically and they often were in a good range expect liver enzymes which are a bit higher than normal but not so much ( especially AST but it’s not just liver specific like ALT which is liver specific and is often in range ). My diet is often perfect. I’m not usual to do high anabolic dosages, before my target is not so high, but the minimal to getting my desidered look.
I have listening good things about TUDCA and N-Acetyl-Cysteine, what is the dose minimale when you use AAS to have the effect of protector ?I dont have where i live, i try to see if some website sell to Europe, but im not sure if it’s better vs Milk Thistle ? Or maybe stacked with TUDCA ?
For the summer, i like to use low dose of Primo (i know lot people use high dose) but with 2 amps /week, and the summer diet, for me this products work well for the anti-catabolic side, not for gain lot weight. He’s safe, dont hurt the test level (with my dose im sure, but for high dosage i dont know)
Add some IGF-1 and you have for me a nice cycle to enjoy the summer
Good luck with your cycle
Originally Posted by lundgrenI have listening good things about TUDCA and N-Acetyl-Cysteine, what is the dose minimale when you use AAS to have the effect of protector ?I dont have where i live, i try to see if some website sell to Europe, but im not sure if it’s better vs Milk Thistle ? Or maybe stacked with TUDCA ?
For the summer, i like to use low dose of Primo (i know lot people use high dose) but with 2 amps /week, and the summer diet, for me this products work well for the anti-catabolic side, not for gain lot weight. He’s safe, dont hurt the test level (with my dose im sure, but for high dosage i dont know)
Add some IGF-1 and you have for me a nice cycle to enjoy the summer
Good luck with your cycle
I use NAC at 1800-2400mg/ED at max for heavy cycles, stacked with C-17; in general this is the max dosage suggested with NAC to get a good ratio of benefits/sides. Yes, you can stack NAC with TUDCA at 450-500mg/ED; sometimes i added Silymarine also for max protection, even if NAC is better above all because it’s a glutathione precursor. I use NAC year around even of out cycles and in TRT/Cruising at normal dosage of 600mg/ED given all its benefits.
Yes, primo is always a good choice to getting a good cut/look and preserving muscle mass. IGF-1 would be a tank in this sense but it would enough for me my targets
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