Question about Caber

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- November 5, 2020 at 5:53 am
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Vincentino
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Alright. First things first, I’ve cycled Tren before (long ester), and I’ve cycled Deca before. Neither time did I use Caber or Prami or anything for Prolactin control. I never had any gyno issues or lactation, none of that.
I’ve been researching both compounds a lot lately since I’m wanting to run another cycle with Deca for its joint support properties.
Now, my question for everyone is: If I never had any issues before, do you feel like I’d even need to take one of those compounds? Does anyone else have a similar story where they didn’t have any problemsuggestions but chose to run Caber or Prami anyways? What were your pros/cons?
Thanks in advance.

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- November 5, 2020 at 7:22 am
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Firstline
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Cons: none, excluding sides, but these tend to subside after a few days.

Pros: Better safe than sorry. PRL shouldn’t be found in men, predispose to gyno, kills libido, may cause/worsen depression and makes harder for the HTPA to recover.
- November 5, 2020 at 8:43 am
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numbere
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As a general rule of thumb only take a drug if you need to for health reasons.

Imo you shouldn’t take caber without good reason.

It would be a good idea to have some caber on hand and if bw indicates elevated PRO or you have signs of elevated PRO then begin taking caber.

If your going to use low dose deca for joint relief then you probably won’t see an increase in PRO.

The range for PRO is 4-15.2 µg/L.

You need some PRO in you system to feel like a man and if you bottom out your PRO then you will likely experience sexual sides such as premature or delayed climax.

Post pct numbers. Need advice with prolactin
- November 5, 2020 at 9:53 am
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Firstline
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Originally Posted by numbere

As a general rule of thumb only take a drug if you need to for health reasons.

You know that concept can be extended to the whole of the AAS world, right?
- November 5, 2020 at 11:25 am
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numbere
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Originally Posted by bizzarro

You know that concept can be extended to the whole of the AAS world, right?

Yes but it’s much easier to convenience someone not to take a drug if it doesn’t aid in building muscle lol.

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This seems like the a good thread to bring up the topic.

What do you or anyone else reading this think about DAWS (Dopamine Agonist Withdrawal Syndrome).

Has anyone experienced this first hand?
- November 5, 2020 at 12:34 pm
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Firstline
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That’s what I’ve been concerned with for a while, before starting caber. The problem with DA is they reduce the rate of dopamine synthesis, whilst antagonist raise it, so it’s logic to expect withdrawal symptoms upon cessation, until system regains homeostasis and rate of synthesis return to normal.
- November 5, 2020 at 1:56 pm
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Vincentino
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Thanks for the info guys.

And no I’ve only heard horror stories which has made me skiddish on taking it, but as you guys just proved me right, I decided to ask the forum in hopes of gaining some insight. I’ll definitely get some as a just in case, but I’ll hold off taking it unless I start having issues.
- November 5, 2020 at 3:20 pm
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Vincentino
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I don’t remember which thread I read it on… perhaps it was the one with all of the info on Tren in it. But there was a guy that took Caber just for the sexual health benefits of it, but when he came off he had terrible withdrawal from it. Said he was way worse off than before he took it. With all of the potential dangers/risks that come with AAS use, I definitely don’t want to chance fucking something else up if I didn’t absolutely need to take the risk.
- November 5, 2020 at 4:44 pm
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numbere
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Originally Posted by bizzarro

That’s what I’ve been concerned with for a while, before starting caber. The problem with DA is they reduce the rate of dopamine synthesis, whilst antagonist raise it, so it’s logic to expect withdrawal symptoms upon cessation, until system regains homeostasis and rate of synthesis return to normal.

I realize everyone has different reactions to these drugs but I’ve never experienced DAWS from caber.

I think that caber, though great at reducing PRO, is a mild DA and at the doses we use on cycle DAWS isn’t something to worry about when using caber.

Just my two cents, so take it for what it’s worth.
- November 5, 2020 at 5:59 pm
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Vincentino
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Originally Posted by numbere

I realize everyone has different reactions to these drugs but I’ve never experienced DAWS from caber.

I think that caber, though great at reducing PRO, is a mild DA and at the doses we use on cycle DAWS isn’t something to worry about when using caber.

Just my two cents, so take it for what it’s worth.

Appreciate the knowledge and insight my friend.
- November 5, 2020 at 7:15 pm
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numbere
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Originally Posted by Vincentino

I don’t remember which thread I read it on… perhaps it was the one with all of the info on Tren in it. But there was a guy that took Caber just for the sexual health benefits of it, but when he came off he had terrible withdrawal from it. Said he was way worse off than before he took it. With all of the potential dangers/risks that come with AAS use, I definitely don’t want to chance fucking something else up if I didn’t absolutely need to take the risk.

Are you sure he was on caber and not prami?

Caber gives me no serial benefits, although sense of well being is slightly increased.

My loads my be bigger but you’d have to ask my girl.

Prami did make sex a bit better but discontinued used spending a night on my bathroom floor puking my face off.
- November 10, 2020 at 1:10 am
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Firstline
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Originally Posted by numbere

I’ll definitely get some as a just in case, but I’ll hold off taking it unless I start having issues.

Well thought.
- November 10, 2020 at 2:30 am
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Mr.BB
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I have taken caber at 1mg per week (and a bit more) without any symptoms whatsoever, except the sexual sides which were the objective
- November 10, 2020 at 3:37 am
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ScotchGuard02
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I’ve run Tren /Test cycle in the past with/without Caber. Without Caber, I got minor gyno right towards the end of the cycle. I kept E2 in check and the gyno was very minor. It went away after 4 weeks. I wouldn’t run another Tren cycle without caber. It’s not the gyno that I’m worried about, it’s the sexual sides. Man, I just have NO libido to speak of. I get wood all day long but I don’t want to do anything with it. Weird, huh? Caber tends to even out my libido.
- November 10, 2020 at 5:07 am
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Firstline
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Talking about sides, I’ve started at 0.25 2x week and I’m getting light headaches and minor orthostatic hypotension. I also find it easier to fall asleep but it’s a benefit for me. After a couple weeks I might try 1mg/week as well, then taper before discontinuing.
- November 10, 2020 at 6:26 am
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Vincentino
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Originally Posted by numbere

Are you sure he was on caber and not prami?

Caber gives me no serial benefits, although sense of well being is slightly increased.

My loads my be bigger but you’d have to ask my girl.

Prami did make sex a bit better but discontinued used spending a night on my bathroom floor puking my face off.

To be honest you might be correct there, I might have just been mistaken. I know a lot of guys complain about hardcore sides with Prami until they get their dosages dialed in. Just seems like a lot of trouble to me if you don’t absolutely need it, ya know?