Road88

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  • Road88
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcusView
    No not at all, I appreciate the honest and knowledgeable feedback.

    Oh I’m feeling it, the pump is there, just dont see the size or strength yet, but that could be the deficit…
    I don’t know man, on my last cycle I put on weight and got down to 12% (my profile pic was on that cycle) and put on weight, 6-7lbs. but wasn’t monitoring my calories intake either, so you could be right, I very well have been at maintenance or in a slight surplus.

    I’m just trying to get down to 10% this time so in a 700 cal deficit, I’m down to probably 14% now, still leaning and not losing weight anymore, was leaning out before I started my cycle.

    So what do you suggest I do for a lean bulk? Eat at maintenance or in a slight surplus? Cause really my goal is to hit that 10% mark without losing anything I’ve put on during this last bulk, but if I can do that and put on some size I’m all ears….

    BTW I’m 40, so burning fat is tough!

    Thanks.

    Ok, that makes sense now. If you gained 7lbs then it was a bulk. If you add nothing but clean muscle you will get a little leaner because weight is going up and with no fat increase so that makes your overall body fat % lower… you aren’t actually burning fat (not sure if that is going to make sense lol, hard to type/explain things instead of actually speaking to someone)

    If you aren’t losing weight anymore, then try lowering the calories even more or adding cardio. The testosterone doesn’t increase the calories you burn or help you lose weight it just makes the weight you lose fat instead of muscle during a cut (as long as someones diet/training is on point)

    The reason I suggested the lean bulk is because I feel like adding pounds of muscle is much more difficult and takes much longer than losing fat does(naturally). People can lose body fat and save their muscle and get reallllly lean naturally… but (for the most part) you can’t pack on 10 or so pounds of lean muscle in 8-12 weeks naturally (unless you are a beginner) without steroids . So in my opinion I just don’t see the point in using a cycle to cut if you aren’t going to add any muscle, just my opinion.

    But your situation is different, if you are dead set on getting to 10% then go for it, your cycle is perfect for it and trying to get down to 10% naturally without losing muscle would be very tuff.

    If you do the lean bulk its possible to get a little leaner while gaining weight but there’s no way you will go from 14% to 10% in that short of time gaining weight. To be honest, you will probably gain a small ammount or maintain your current bf% but in the long run I think you will be happier with the extra muscle.

    You’re already in great shape for 40 man, keep it up.

    Road88
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    You are on a cut, 500mg pw is more than enough to preserve your muscle. Upping the dose would literally be a complete waste unless you start bulking. You are not going to gain any muscle during a calorie deficit even with gear

    the only exceptions to this is: if you have just started lifting weights for the first time, or if you used to train and took a really long break and lost it all and came back then muscle memory might add a little mass during a deficit, and lastly if you were in the hospital/sick and in bed for months then you might be able to add a little muscle during a deficit as well when you return to the gym. If someone is in any of those situations they shouldnt be using steroids at all, and they dont need them because the results will be great without them for months and months

    Not trying to burst your bubble but you didn’t gain any muscle on your "crazy" first cycle either even with multiple compounds and those doses….if you did gain you were not in a calorie deficit. Some of the size you thought you gained could be water retention or just the illusion a good cut gives that makes you appear bigger because the muscle is more visable and defined.

    As long as you keep the protein high, calories low, and train hard your cut should be a success as long as you are losing weight.

    If you haven’t started to "feel" it yet then it should be kicking in very soon, your ester starts kicking in right around now (week 4). if you don’t feel anything by week 6 its possible your gear is fake. I would get blood work done in 2 weeks (your 6 week mark) regardless just to see what your Testosterone levels are at and to see how well your gear is dosed, also see what your estro is at and if you need to up or lower your arimidex . Make sure when you get the estro test you get the "Sensitive estrodiol E2 test" thats the only accurate one for men…the other estro test is for women and isn’t as accurate for men.

    In my opinion you should switch to a lean bulk man, I feel like you are wasting these cycles on cuts when you could be getting so much more out of your gear. I know you made a post a few weeks ago saying you were worried about putting on too much size too fast but I wouldn’t worry about that, and if you are worried about that why the hell even use gear? Save your money/health

    Hope I didn’t come aBambss as a jerk. I am truly trying to give you the best advice I can and explain myself as well.

    Good luck

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