What is the best oral steroid for muscle gain?

You need to stop using AAS and start doing a lot more research before you decide to use anything. Oral anabolic steroids are not the way to go, and they are horrible for use on their own. A good cycle always includes testosterone in it.

Originally Posted by wallboy

Also, what other orals can you take so when you come off them, all the extra weight/muscle gain stays?

umm… it’s not how this stuff works dude…
you cant keep most of your gains since its mostly water retention that makes you look bigger… i can bloat up to 22-25lbs on a cycle if im lucky but doin 3-4 of these a year i have never gained more than 8-10lbs in any year.

the faster you gain weight, the more you will lose because muscles dosent grow that fast…

Originally Posted by Shadowmaker

umm… it’s not how this stuff works dude…
you cant keep most of your gains since its mostly water retention that makes you look bigger… i can bloat up to 22-25lbs on a cycle if im lucky but doin 3-4 of these a year i have never gained more than 8-10lbs in any year.

the faster you gain weight, the more you will lose because muscles dosent grow that fast…

Exactly why I stay away form dbol , abol, etc. All water based gains. You’ll inflate while on it and then deflate when you stop. Not worth the money or time wasted. Do it right. Get your diet nailed down. If you aren’t consuming enough of the right calories and correct proportions of maBambs (carbs, fats, proteins) you’ll have a very tough time holding onto any gains. Nutrition will get you there and keep you there. Until you have a successful nutrition plan in place, you’ll be on a rollercoaster of gains and loses.

I would include test in any cycle especially if you’re running dbol along with it. Your diet is going to be the number 1 factor when it comes to keeping your gains, as well as a proper PCT.

Originally Posted by wallboy

So if i were to take dbol, exactly what test would i need to take with it?

There are some more things to consider here. Like DIET, training exp, your age.

I have cycled before but in 2 months I have made so much progress with just diet alone. I have a thread in the nutrition section titled "3Js the fireman is fat, the journey of IF". Check it out I have 2 month progress pic with ONLY diet.

I know you might not want to hear this because it’s not the easier way. Because let me tell you, figuring out your diet is a pain, or at least it was for me. Now I wish I had known this years ago. Good luck and check out some of the nutrition stuff.