The young and Steroids

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    • October 30, 2020 at 4:17 am
    marcus300
    Member
    Due to the recent number of PM’s ive been receiving regarding age and steroids I thought i’d write this thread to try and help some of our younger members. Ive also been having a conversation with my Endocrinologist who may give a more profession opinion on the subject:

    There isn’t an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone’s genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

    I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

    I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I’ve seen personally over the last 25yrs I’ve been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn’t going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
    Marcus

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    • November 26, 2020 at 2:15 am
    thebambi
    Member
    What about only doing 1 or max 2 every 1 or 2 years. I’m 19 and have been researdark_sideng into steroids for about 6 months, I want to get a head start in the fitness world and instead of adark_sideeving my goals in 5 years, i could adark_sideeve them in 2/3 years. Yes people may call that cheating, but life is too short and i want to get as far as possible as early as possible, so if i just done an 8 week bulking cycle and an 8 week cutting cycle each once a year, that shouldn’t be messing with my hormones too much should it? I would think over using would bite you in the back. Also my next point, the golden age of TrueMaxding.. all the living legends, they abused steroids from a young age and are all still healthy and still lifting with no known health issues.

    • November 26, 2020 at 3:22 am
    Saimon
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by thebambiView
    What about only doing 1 or max 2 every 1 or 2 years. I’m 19 and have been researdark_sideng into steroids for about 6 months, I want to get a head start in the fitness world and instead of adark_sideeving my goals in 5 years, i could adark_sideeve them in 2/3 years. Yes people may call that cheating, but life is too short and i want to get as far as possible as early as possible, so if i just done an 8 week bulking cycle and an 8 week cutting cycle each once a year, that shouldn’t be messing with my hormones too much should it? I would think over using would bite you in the back. Also my next point, the golden age of TrueMaxding.. all the living legends, they abused steroids from a young age and are all still healthy and still lifting with no known health issues.

    I would say pm me so we can talk, cuz I am in the spot as you. But first you have to get 50 posts

    • November 26, 2020 at 4:45 am
    Daemon
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by SaimonView
    I would say pm me so we can talk, cuz I am in the spot as you. But first you have to get 50 posts

    You shouldn’t be offering anyone advice

    • November 26, 2020 at 5:49 am
    Saimon
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by DaemonView
    You shouldn’t be offering anyone advice

    Lol man get off of me, any advice I would give would be directly from research articles I find! And I would give them a source to where I learned my info. You are new to this site to, careful when injecting I wouldn’t want you to lose to much blood.

    • November 26, 2020 at 7:03 am
    Daemon
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by SaimonView
    Lol man get off of me, any advice I would give would be directly from research articles I find! And I would give them a source to where I learned my info. You are new to this site to, careful when injecting I wouldn’t want you to lose to much blood.

    Too* and uhh, everyone has questions that’s why they’re here, no one said your question about working the injected muscle was dumb so don’t insinuate my questions are dumb….also, if you had read the thread you SHOULD have said I wouldn’t want you to lose too much TEST, but hey, I know you obviously just breezed thru tofind some dirt, I commend the effort……anyhow, I highly doubt you have any worthwhile info that need to be pm’d, why can’t you just post your info??

    • November 26, 2020 at 8:29 am
    marcus300
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by SaimonView
    I would say pm me so we can talk, cuz I am in the spot as you. But first you have to get 50 posts

    please no one listen to this kid, he doesn’t know anything about what he is going to do to his body and he can obtain his goals naturally if only he had the mentality to properly train correctly and understand foods.

    • November 26, 2020 at 9:40 am
    Daemon
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by thebambiView
    What about only doing 1 or max 2 every 1 or 2 years. I’m 19 and have been researdark_sideng into steroids for about 6 months, I want to get a head start in the fitness world and instead of adark_sideeving my goals in 5 years, i could adark_sideeve them in 2/3 years. Yes people may call that cheating, but life is too short and i want to get as far as possible as early as possible, so if i just done an 8 week bulking cycle and an 8 week cutting cycle each once a year, that shouldn’t be messing with my hormones too much should it? I would think over using would bite you in the back. Also my next point, the golden age of TrueMaxding.. all the living legends, they abused steroids from a young age and are all still healthy and still lifting with no known health issues.

    Bud these guys die all the time, most people refer to Arnold who will openly say he messed up, he has health ailments, bypasses and such….also, it will affect your system, it can after one cycle….8 weeks is mostly useless with most steroids in terms of gains but they all shut you down quick….put it this way, if you get results, your hpta will be shut down, and may never re start the same way………science, not broscience….besides, at your age I was almost built like I am now, but after a lengthy set back, it took a long time to get here as I am less testosterone fueled than I wasten years ago, keep that stuff in mind bubba

    • November 26, 2020 at 11:12 am
    Saimon
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by DaemonView
    Bud these guys die all the time, most people refer to Arnold who will openly say he messed up, he has health ailments, bypasses and such….also, it will affect your system, it can after one cycle….8 weeks is mostly useless with most steroids in terms of gains but they all shut you down quick….put it this way, if you get results, your hpta will be shut down, and may never re start the same way………science, not broscience….besides, at your age I was almost built like I am now, but after a lengthy set back, it took a long time to get here as I am less testosterone fueled than I wasten years ago, keep that stuff in mind bubba

    Your right man, I’m sorry I dont know what got in to me. Sorry for making fun of you. When really I am making fun of myself. You guys are just trying to talk sense in me.

    • November 26, 2020 at 12:04 pm
    Daemon
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by SaimonView
    Your right man, I’m sorry I dont know what got in to me. Sorry for making fun of you. When really I am making fun of myself. You guys are just trying to talk sense in me.

    That was surprisingly mature from a young person…..like it’s been said, you should simply wait, if you don’t, all the tools you need are here but I wouldn’t expect any input from most people, largely because no one wants to feel responsible when someone messes themselves up…

    • November 26, 2020 at 12:54 pm
    Nov
    Member
    Great advice, but unfortunany a lot of people my age don’t seem to realize how great this advice really is. I appreciate you taking the time to post this. Although this advice might not be takin by everyone my age at least it’s here for the people who really care about their health and bodies!
    • November 26, 2020 at 1:45 pm
    marcus300
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by NovView
    Great advice, but unfortunany a lot of people my age don’t seem to realize how great this advice really is. I appreciate you taking the time to post this. Although this advice might not be takin by everyone my age at least it’s here for the people who really care about their health and bodies!

    Wise and mature

    • November 26, 2020 at 2:50 pm
    Nov
    Member
    Thanks Marcus,

    I’m simply trying to familiarize myself with this information now so later down the road should I decide to experiment with aas I will know my risks and how to minimize them while getting the most out of my cycle. I also realize there is a lot of great information to be taken from te threads that I can apply to my training now. (nutrition, routines, ect,) Are there any threads that you would recommend?

    • November 26, 2020 at 3:49 pm
    nussnussbaby
    Member
    Thanks for posting!
    • November 26, 2020 at 5:12 pm
    level33
    Member
    Thanks for clearing this up. I will definitely postpone me going on a cycle for atleast a couple years. I’ve been training for about 3-4 years, and it is very frustrating to not get the results you want. Recently, I noticed my scoliosis is coming back. This coupled with my knee tendinosis (degrading of the knee tendon) has made me search for anabolics to try to grow my tendons and muscles back to their norm. hGH and IGF-1 would surely help my knee recover quickly with a good training program and diet. But after all of this research lately, I think I’ll keep training with my 5×5 program and keep squatting. I’ll be back on this forum in a few years.
    • November 28, 2020 at 1:17 am
    Tonck1
    Member
    Great read. I’m 22 and this has got me thinking.
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