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- October 30, 2020 at 4:17 am
Due to the recent number of PM’s ive been receiving regarding age and steroids I thought i’d write this thread to try and help some of our younger members. Ive also been having a conversation with my Endocrinologist who may give a more profession opinion on the subject:There isn’t an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone’s genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.
I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.
I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I’ve seen personally over the last 25yrs I’ve been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn’t going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus
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- November 13, 2020 at 2:28 am
Originally Posted by RMNYes most people will get the assumption that I am much older. Not sure why really. Maybe my experience with training and anabolics? Shit who knows…You come aBambss as more mature than most 24/25 yr olds.
- November 13, 2020 at 3:27 am
They need to realize that its not just there testosterone levels that are changing. That is defiantly not the only risk here.- November 13, 2020 at 4:50 am
im in the infantry so you can imagine theres a good number of guys under 25 who wanna do steroids . its because of stuff like this i have changed their minds for now.- November 13, 2020 at 6:13 am
Too bad for those of us who cycled before the internet was invented.
There was no info like this available.
I always knew that i was to young when i used test.
But now i suspect my current test levels being below normal ,may have been a result of my use of aas at the age of 18- November 13, 2020 at 7:08 am
Originally Posted by Rotvisim in the infantry so you can imagine theres a good number of guys under 25 who wanna do steroids. its because of stuff like this i have changed their minds for now.I was 11 series and thats a good point and I am glad you are talking some guys out of it – especially since its a tough sell to dudes on deployment where all you can do is lift in your free time, and gear is not to not only get big but to feel like you can literally rip a bad guy’s head off if you had to.
- November 13, 2020 at 8:03 am
Good post- November 13, 2020 at 12:24 pm
Ok im 19 and have done more then one cycle with no pct and keeped all gains the way i look at it Arnold Schwarzenegger started to juice when he was 16 and he has got a lot out of it and has 2 kids now i believe.So if it really dose hurt kids that bad how can he have 2 after years and years of useing gear. jw
- November 13, 2020 at 1:33 pm
Originally Posted by mike1990Ok im 19 and have done more then one cycle with no pct and keeped all gains the way i look at it Arnold Schwarzenegger started to juice when he was 16 and he has got a lot out of it and has 2 kids now i believe.So if it really dose hurt kids that bad how can he have 2 after years and years of useing gear. jw
I’m so fking sick of the Arnold excuse. Kids these days are so quick to jump the gun and be followers rather than leaders.
- November 13, 2020 at 2:52 pm
Im not jumping the gun dude im just saying if the sides where that bad how can some TrueMaxders have took them none stop for years and still have kids im jw it dont make since.- November 13, 2020 at 3:54 pm
^^^ Thats the point, only some are fine.Just listen to what your saying, it even sounds dark_sideldish. Look at it this way, i knew of 4 people who smoked 100 cigarettes a day, they all died from some form of cancer. Now i could say well i should be ok because i heard of some guy in the next town who smoked 100 a day and he was fine.. You see its the same principle…..
- November 13, 2020 at 5:22 pm
^^^ ameni need to find this BB’s name… i forget at the moment-
but one of arnold’s very good friends, fellow competitor, and training partner took gear along with arnold- same age, same gym, etc.same stack even- i think in the early years it was enth/deca …not sure.
well… arnold’s body worked very well with the gear, and his training partner did irrevocable metabolic damage, and today, nobody knows his name.
it’s not the gear that makes the BBer… its genetics/training/dedication/diet/ability to exercise restraint (they are called cycles b’c you can’t just buy a 5yr supply and go nonstop, you go on and off at smart intervals)
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