Test and tren

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    T-boner
    Member
    I would like my next cycle to be test and tren . What is the recommended amounts for each through a 12 week cycle? This will be my 4th cycle. Had no problems with the 1st 3 other than when I ended with Sus I had a hard time recovering. Last cycle I did test E and ended with prop so pct went fine. I assume I will end tren before the test but how much before And when would pct start? If I end with prop again should I take it out to 14 weeks?
    Was thinking this
    1-10 test E 250 per wk5
    11-12 prop 250 per week
    Teen 200 per wk. not sure how many weeks and which week to start and finish tren.

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    Marcus G
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by T-bonerView
    Well I agree. I’m not currently taking tren. What do you think I’m doing in this thread? I’m trying to get all my research done so when I use tren it is in a safe way and will be effective. Thats like saying you’re not ready and not allowed to ask questions in order to get ready. I’m on this forum to learn. That’s all I’m trying do do. Thanks for the sticky referral. I searched tren and for some reason didnt see it.

    What i mean is if you just looked at tren cycles and lengths etc you would have come here saying for example, Hi I want to take tren for my next cycle and I’ve decided to do 300mg tren ace for 8 weeks and test at 250mg for 10 weeks. I’ll be doing tren ace at 75mg eod because of the short half life and taking arimidex at 0.25 eod to combat Estrogen and prolactin and have a dopamine agonist on hand incase prolactin gets out of hand. What’s your thoughts? This would have been a good indication that’d you’ve looked into tren and how to use it.

    Marcus G
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by T-bonerView
    Well I agree. I’m not currently taking tren. What do you think I’m doing in this thread? I’m trying to get all my research done so when I use tren it is in a safe way and will be effective. Thats like saying you’re not ready and not allowed to ask questions in order to get ready. I’m on this forum to learn. That’s all I’m trying do do. Thanks for the sticky referral. I searched tren and for some reason didnt see it.

    Please don’t think I’m having a go I’m just trying to highlight the point that if you just Google tren you can quickly get a basic level of knowledge come here with your ideas for future cycles and we’ll give our opinions and suggestions.

    numbere
    Member
    This will be your third cycle in a year.

    That’s basically a cruise.

    I’m curious what are your stats?

    redz
    Member
    3 cycles in a year no wonder there was recovery issues.
    T-boner
    Member
    I never mentioned the time frame for my previous cycles are you asking if I did 3 cycles in a year or for some reason telling me I did?
    My 1st cycle started Dec 2015 for 10 weeks.
    2nd cycle was end of may 2016 for 12 weeks
    3rd cycle was middle jan 2017 for 10 weeks.
    Time on equals time off plus pct right?
    I have not started a 4th and won’t until 14 weeks after my last pin of prop. Maybe longer cause I feel pretty good right now and I’ve gained some of the loss back that I lost after the cycle.
    numbere
    Member
    There was no question mark after my sentence which would make it a statement.

    From May 2016 to April 2017 is less than a year.

    Look buddy I’m not trying to give you an attitude or start an argument.

    I’m literally just offering impartial advice.

    If my original assumption was incorrect then I apologize.

    Again, what are your stats?

    PT1982
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScienceView
    Damn, that’s good to know and sucks all at the same time.

    It’s absolutely true. That’s the reason I started to homebrew. After running blast after blast of tren at 100mgs eod, I never experienced any sides that weren’t manageable. Then I went to 100mgs ED. A little worse, but still doable. I ran some tests and from 5 different ugls, only 1 was dosed close to advertised. It came in >90mgs/ml. I don’t know how the testing is done, but it is what it is. The other 4 were <50mgs/ml.
    Once I started homebrewing, I jumped right back on the 100mgs ED and within 5 days I could barely stand to be around anyone. I’m talking wearing a t shirt outside in 35 degree weather at Christmas and pouring sweat. I dropped all the way down to 50mgs ED and found that was the sweet spot. I do think ED merQistration will help with the sides a little. But the underdosing stuff, unfortunately, is a part of the risk we take.

    T-boner
    Member
    5’10"
    180 lbs
    42 years old
    13-14% body fat
    Lift 5-6 days per week.
    2800-3200 calories depending if protein is from dark_sidecken or beef.
    numbere
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by T-bonerView
    5’10"
    180 lbs
    42 years old
    13-14% body fat
    Lift 5-6 days per week.
    2800-3200 calories depending if protein is from dark_sidecken or beef.

    With respect you don’t need tren at this point you need to learn how to eat for growth.

    Considering your stats and your previous cycles you should be over 200lb.

    No offense but someone who’s 5’10" should be able to get to 180lb before their first cycle.

    T-boner
    Member
    I started at 145 lbs. Putting on weight has been a struggle my whole life. I thought I was doing good. Dodnt realize my gains aren’t very good. I feel great though. Putting on that 30 to 35 pounds has helped me a lot in the way I feel and my confidence.
    numbere
    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by T-bonerView
    I started at 145 lbs. Putting on weight has been a struggle my whole life. I thought I was doing good. Dodnt realize my gains aren’t very good. I feel great though. Putting on that 30 to 35 pounds has helped me a lot in the way I feel and my confidence.

    I’m not that saying your gains are bad, you’ve come a long way.

    Cycling isn’t healthy so it’s kind of a waste of your health to use AS of your diet isn’t on point to meet your goals.

    You can use any compound stack or dosage you want but they won’t make up for large deficiencies in diet raining.

    T-boner
    Member
    I put my diet together using information from the diet section on this site. It consists of six meals per day roughly 500 calories each meal. I tried to stay around 40 – 45 grams protein and 45 grams carbs and less than eight grams of fat each meal. My meals are measured out daily. Do I need to be eating more?
    Quote Originally Posted by T-bonerView
    I put my diet together using information from the diet section on this site. It consists of six meals per day roughly 500 calories each meal. I tried to stay around 40 – 45 grams protein and 45 grams carbs and less than eight grams of fat each meal. My meals are measured out daily. Do I need to be eating more?

    That seems sufficient, That’s roughly 3000kcals. It takes about 3500 kcals to build one pound of muscle. I might of missed it above but are you bulking, cutting or maintenance?

    T-boner
    Member
    Trying to lean bulk but sometimes I feel like I’m just maintaining. Its hard to stay under 8g fat per meal but I can hit the protein and carb goal for each meal.
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