Tamoxifen (Nolva) + Anastrozole (Arimidex)

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    • September 15, 2020 at 7:16 am
    weightlifter
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    Hello guys,

    Is it ok to take both at the same time for the gyno (mammary tissue)? I read that nolva blocks the receptors in the breast tissue, but it raises estrogen up to 300% (read a study) in other parts of the body. So I was wondering if I could take both, so that arimidex would control the total estrogen to avoid any possible rebound after discontinuing.

    I was thinking about:

    Day 1-7, Arimidex 0,25mg EOD

    Day 8-35, Arimidex 0,25mg EOD, Nolva 10-20mg ED

    Day 36-49, Arimidex 0,25mg EOD

    I would do the BW after 3 weeks and adjust if necessary.

    Any thoughts?

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    • November 3, 2020 at 3:13 pm
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoyView
    this is my most blunt advice . if your natty test levels are basically crashed and you need to be on TRT , then I wouldn’t waste my time with pct protools . I’d get on 150mg a week of test, 350mg of mast, and then run 20mg of nolva and 10mg a day of Halotestin (and if sex drive is an issue still, add in some proviron and cialis). within 3-4 weeks your gyno issues will likely subside, your sex drive through the roof, and you’ll feel like a beast.. then come off and just cruise on a little bit of test

    Thanks for the input OldBoy. I don’t know if I have to be on TRT yet. My levels are chrashed, but I was hoping to try restarting my HPTA, before going on TRT.

    I had a debate in my other thread (wrote about it in the post #6) about, whether I should do a Power PCT or some kind of restart protocol for my HPTA, due to having a low T.

    But there is also this other lactating problem that I have and to make it all worse, I got gyno symptoms recently.

    So that’s why I decided to go with the Nolva.

    I would love to hop back on the testo and drive my levels into the sky and feel like a beast, but I was thinking to give myself a chance of recovery and see if I can get on my normal T levels naturally.

    I wrote a lab and managed to get some BW from year 2013, when I was all natty. I assume that’s total T. Seems good.

    Estradiol: 23,5 ng/L —–> 7,6 – 42 ng/L
    Testosteron: 6,55 ng/L —–> 2,8 – 8 ng/L

    • November 3, 2020 at 4:38 pm
    weightlifter
    Member
    Hi guys,

    so it’s the end of my fifth week of Nolva. I did first week (5 days) 10mg and then after the advice from Windex, I bumped to 20mg. I did another 4 weeks and tomorrow starts the 6th week.

    So, I wanted to lower the dose back to 10mg and then do another week of 5mg, if I have to tapper down. Do I? If not, I will just do another 7 days 10mg and that’s it.

    I can’t seem to notice any difference in anything. Not on the libido, nor sperm or my weel being. The lump in the left nipple is still there. The milk is there.

    I will do some BW, couse I’m curious if Nolva did anything. After I finish my next week, I was thinking about waiting two or three weeks and then try HCG for few weeks, followed by Nolva+Clomid again.,

    Any thoughts?

    • November 3, 2020 at 5:55 pm
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    Anyone?
    • November 5, 2020 at 1:03 am
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    Bump My 6th week is comig to an end. Would be great to know if I need to taper down…
    • November 5, 2020 at 2:29 am
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    So I did my BW today. I know I should have waited for few weeks, but I was curious what Nolva did… I stopped Nolva on Monday, so it is still in the System.

    I took it primarily for my Gyno symptoms, but I was hoping it will also do something for my low T. The lump is sadly still there. I also still lactate.

    I did 6 weeks, 10/20/20/20/20/10.

    Numbers:

    LH: 6,9 mIU/ml (before 5,9)
    FSH: 5,9 mIU/ml (before 6,1)
    Total T: 1176,2 ng/dl (before 223)
    SHRonin: 57 nmol/l (before 35)
    Estradiol: 21,2 ng/l (before 23,2)
    Prolactin: 13,8 ng/ml (before 8,3)
    Progesteron: 0,2 ug/l (before 0,1)

    So, sadly I don’t have the free T number. They would have to send it to another lab, so I decided not to do it (I regret).

    The Total T is very questionable to me, especially, because there is no abnormal LH or FSH activity, so not sure where could that come from. I am assuming lab mistake. I also don’t feel any boost, so not sure about that number.

    SHGB is also much higher, so if I remember correctly, that means it binds more of my free T, leaving less for the body to use.

    Estrogen is also pretty surprising I guess, it did not elevate even a bit.

    Cheers

    • November 5, 2020 at 3:27 am
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    Hi guys,

    got my lab results back from last week. Five weeks post nolva therapy.

    The testosterone is low again. So no benefit from mono nolva therapy.

    Results:

    Prolactin: 20,5 ng/ml —–> 2,5-17
    LH: 4,3 mIU/ml —–> 0,1-7,6
    FSH: 5,9 mIU/ml —–> 0,1-11,1
    SHRonin: 31,2 nmol/l —–> 13-71
    Test: 307 ng/dl —–> 249-853
    Free T: 6,1 ng/dl —–> 5,7-17,8

    So it has been almost two years now since I have been shut down. I have tried beeing patient, I have tried caber for the prolaktin, helped for it, but did nothing for the HPTA. I have tried nolvadex for 6 weeks, nothing.

    Ahhh, whatever

    • November 5, 2020 at 4:23 am
    _ironrob_
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    What is your goal? I’m not sure I got it exactly.

    The numbers in your latest results look like pretty average numbers, so if you were trying to get back to ‘normal’, looks like you made it. Prolactin is a bit high but you are working on that, I think?

    Have you tried Clomid? It is generally affects the HPTA better than Nolvadex .

    • November 5, 2020 at 5:25 am
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    Member
    Quote Originally Posted by _ironrob_View
    What is your goal? I’m not sure I got it exactly.

    The numbers in your latest results look like pretty average numbers, so if you were trying to get back to ‘normal’, looks like you made it. Prolactin is a bit high but you are working on that, I think?

    Have you tried Clomid? It is generally affects the HPTA better than Nolvadex.

    With these levels of test, I don’t think I "made it". I am almost at the bottom. I think I should be more in the upper half of it to make it. I still feel very unmotivated, lack of energy, almost zero libido, etc.

    I haven’t tried clomid alone. I am considering that option for my next move.

    • November 5, 2020 at 6:31 am
    jake
    Member
    I’m glad for you that the gyno bump isn’t visible and there’s no pain. It’s not a problem that you want to have / get worse. I wouldn’t even look at myself in the mirror without a shirt on when I had it. In addition to the pain I had zero self esteem and even made excuses not to have sex. I don’t know enough to help you out with what you need now, but I do hope someone else helps you get it sorted out, either here on the board or by a doctor. Good luck.
    • November 5, 2020 at 7:32 am
    weightlifter
    Member
    Thank you
    • November 5, 2020 at 9:00 am
    MecGen
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    Quote Originally Posted by MоssreezeView
    I’m glad for you that the gyno bump isn’t visible and there’s no pain. It’s not a problem that you want to have / get worse. I wouldn’t even look at myself in the mirror without a shirt on when I had it. In addition to the pain I had zero self esteem and even made excuses not to have sex. I don’t know enough to help you out with what you need now, but I do hope someone else helps you get it sorted out, either here on the board or by a doctor. Good luck.

    Hey Johnny

    I have a quick question for you if you can PM me, I don’t have permission to PM you

    Thanks

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