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Originally Posted by OldBoy
Yes I agree from my expirience.
Neither registered on liver tox in my bloods and I have ran a lot of both.
Originally Posted by OldBoywhat makes winstrol special for it’s cortisol blocking effects compared to others?
When I took strong psych drugs that lowered cortisol alot I was lethargic as hell, that shit was ridiculous. Winstrol is the only " oral" I’ve not used so I’m curious, never really heard anyone say winstrol made them feel good lol.
Originally Posted by BekasAll AAS (especially some of the orals) can blunt Cortisol to a certain degree but this is only in a limited capacity at the receptor level.. Winstrol is the only AAS that I know of that blunts the actual production of Cortisol from the aCrash007al gland itself , very similar to CytaCrash007 .
the reason guys feel achy and not always so great on Winstrol is by completely blunting cortisol, your blocking your bodies own natural production of anti-inflammatory (one thing cortisol does/is) .. so your joints will start to ache, not cause they are ‘dried out’ but because they are a bit inflamed with no cortisol to bring down inflammation. this of course is positive in that cortisol is also a catabolic muscle wasting fat storing hormone as well. so its a fine H10.
keep your Winny at 25mg per day and it shouldn’t be an issue . but when your in contest prep or trying to get shredded and running 50-100mg per day , then yeah expect to feel a bit shitty and achy and ‘inflamed’
Originally Posted by OldBoyGreat observation, OldBoy. I wonder, almost for those ones are in TRT, if could be useful to run a brief course in the meanwhile, adding Var of Dbol to give a boost. Sometimes i got a good gains introducing Dbol 20-30mg/ED in my TRT for 3-4 weeks. After i stopped it and continued with Test E as cruising or TRT dosages. Although i take a lot of supplements for liver protection and lipids ( NAC, UDCA, Red Rice Yeast ), i was wondering what it should the ideal time to take a break from orals before starting them again. I know that it’s hard to reply to this questions because it would be different for everyone according to BW and the dosages. What do you think it about ?
Originally Posted by < <Samson> >The positive mental sides I get from Dbol are nothing short of amazing, so I asked the question, because if I decide to run Var, I’ll lose out on the positive dbol sides, so I wanted to run them both, with Dbol at a lower dosage.
Originally Posted by redzSorry, but that has no relevance to my question.
Originally Posted by OldBoyOkay perfect, just wanted to make sure there was some advantage of doing this. What doses would you recommend? I was thinking Dbol @ 20mg/day and Anavar at 40mg/day for the first 4 weeks of my cycle, and then drop the dbol and continue with Var for another 2-3 weeks.
Originally Posted by ShootingAcezIt was relevant because redz was looking out for your best interests. tons of people have come over the years trying to claim they don’t need Test.
You didn’t include much information in your original post or talk about Testosterone – hence the assumption of the stereotype.
Originally Posted by redzSorry mate. Off day. Yeah, I’ll be running Test and some other compounds. Just wanting to find out if anyone has run Anavar and Dbol together and what the outcome was.
Originally Posted by ShootingAcezso I agree with you that Dbol has great mental benefit aspects. thats why I’ve used it as a pre workout for a good 5 or so years (most affordable pre workout money can buy).
now if your going to be using Anavar as your main anabolic agent for your cycle , then go ahead and run it like that (so 40-50mg per day). and the Dbol just keep it at 20mg as a pre workout. you can probably do this a good 6-7 weeks.
the dbol and var will have some good synergy especially for muscle fullness and pumps. the Var is going to upregulate CP (creatine phosphate) and help with strength of contractions and ATP production , whereas the Dbol is going to help push more nutrients, water, minerals, etc. into the muscle cells. so you should have some outstanding workouts.. just take in plenty of carbs and salt and water around your workouts.
Originally Posted by OldBoyOkay perfect! I’m glad I had the right idea about their synergy!
Now with regards to this little tweak of my cycle, should I cut the Winny at the end of the cycle? or keep it as is? I’ll be on 1500mg/day of NAC and some milk thistle throughout the cycle. In your opinion, should that be good to continue with the Winny as well?
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