First Cycle Test-E Questions

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- October 30, 2020 at 1:36 pm
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Test247
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So I just got some gear, and I’m going to run a test-e cycle. Here are my stats: 23, 6’3", 175 lbs.

I’m going to run 500mg/week of test-e, and I’d like a lot of advice on this:

Test-E:
1. I’m guessing i should inject 250mg/1mL 2x per week instead of 500mg/2mL 1x per week, am I right?
2. I’ve got a skinny ass, should I still use 25g, 1.1/2" syringes or should I switch them up to 1"?

Nolvadex :
1. I’m almost positive I should pick up Nolva in case of gyno. So if I start to experience gyno I would take it at 20 mg/day correct? I’ve seen a lot of conflicting information on when and how to use Nolva.
2. If I don’t experience any gyno, should I use Nolva for PCT or on-cycle?

hCG :
1. Should I use hCG at all for a pure test-e cycle?
2. Does it matter that it’s my first cycle?
3. If I should take it, how much should I take each week?
4. Is it alright to combine hCG and test-e into one syringe to keep shots per week at two?

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- October 30, 2020 at 2:03 pm
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Noles12
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Originally Posted by st29

So I just got some gear, and I’m going to run a test-e cycle. Here are my stats: 23, 6’3", 175 lbs.

I’m going to run 500mg/week of test-e, and I’d like a lot of advice on this:

Test-E:
1. I’m guessing i should inject 250mg/1mL 2x per week instead of 500mg/2mL 1x per week, am I right?YES
2. I’ve got a skinny ass, should I still use 25g, 1.1/2" syringes or should I switch them up to 1"?1.5 is fine, 1 inch too small for glute.

Nolvadex :
1. I’m almost positive I should pick up Nolva in case of gyno. So if I start to experience gyno I would take it at 20 mg/day correct? I’ve seen a lot of conflicting information on when and how to use Nolva.Nolva is a serm, should be used as PCT, Get an AI like Aromasin or liquid exemestane. Helps with bloat, gyno and less test conversion to estro.
2. If I don’t experience any gyno, should I use Nolva for PCT or on-cycle?Not on cycle look at 1. sure use for PCT or Clomid for PCT. Either, or Both.

hCG :
1. Should I use hCG at all for a pure test-e cycle? Sure, if you want to maintain testies. 250 iu every 3 days.
2. Does it matter that it’s my first cycle? Only if you want a faster recovery after cycle
3. If I should take it, how much should I take each week? look at 1.
4. Is it alright to combine hCG and test-e into one syringe to keep shots per week at two? You could combine the two in one syringe. I don’t because it’s easy to slin pin HCG in the stomach skin.

I would say you have lots to gain naturally easily with your weight. You are skinny and tall. Rethink jumping into juice, all you need is to Eat like a horse(and clean) and train hard. You will gain just as much as you would with your natural test levels pumping.

Steroid are only icing on a cake. You need to bake the cake and let it cool before adding icing or else you have a shitty cake.

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- October 30, 2020 at 5:36 pm
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SlimmerMe
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Question: 6’3" & 175 pounds…..

Wouldn’t you rather add some weight from food first before a cycle? You would have much better results. Think about it.
- October 30, 2020 at 7:42 pm
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merQ
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Originally Posted by SlimmerMe

Question: 6’3" & 175 pounds…..

Wouldn’t you rather add some weight from food first before a cycle? You would have much better results. Think about it.

^^^^^This

From your stats you shouldnt be cycling but rather heading to the diet section because its obvious yours isnt in line.
You are very light for your height
- November 5, 2020 at 6:25 am
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Noles12
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A proper diet and training for the next 2 years will yield you some great gains, save gear use for the future.
- November 5, 2020 at 7:29 am
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Noles12
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Thanks Jayhav2p, and I get the points from SlimmerMe and Noles12. I do have to say though, I played wide receiver in HS at 195 lbs. I dropped that weight because I haven’t had the willpower since teammates aren’t pressuring me to keep my weight up. Also I drop weight fast and I always felt like that weight I gained was too soft. I know that if I jump into this I will feel obligated to get out there every morning and lift until I feel a real change in my mental and physical.

All that being said, I know it’s not a miracle drug, but I already have the test-e, I’m not just gonna let it rot in my drawer. So I get the cautionary advice, but I’m past that point, and I would like advice about how to stay safe. Jayhav2p–you had a ton of good input, and thanks for the info about AI, but it completely contradicts Steroid Cycle Novice I listed on this very website. So I’m looking for other people to either agree with or refute whether or not I should go Aromasin over Nolva if I start to feel gyno issues. Plus Aromasin/exemestane is too expensive per tab from my source…
- November 5, 2020 at 9:00 am
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Noles12
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Originally Posted by st29

Thanks Jayhav2p, and I get the points from SlimmerMe and Noles12. I do have to say though, I played wide receiver in HS at 195 lbs. I dropped that weight because I haven’t had the willpower since teammates aren’t pressuring me to keep my weight up. Also I drop weight fast and I always felt like that weight I gained was too soft. I know that if I jump into this I will feel obligated to get out there every morning and lift until I feel a real change in my mental and physical.

All that being said, I know it’s not a miracle drug, but I already have the test-e, I’m not just gonna let it rot in my drawer. So I get the cautionary advice, but I’m past that point, and I would like advice about how to stay safe. Jayhav2p–you had a ton of good input, and thanks for the info about AI, but it completely contradicts Steroid Cycle Novice I listed on this very website. So I’m looking for other people to either agree with or refute whether or not I should go Aromasin over Nolva if I start to feel gyno issues. Plus Aromasin/exemestane is &&&& per tab from my source, that’s too rich for my blood…

Your thinking is flawed and shows you are not ready for AAS.

So im guessing you are on and off with the gym now?

AAS should be used to aide in building muscle after a consistent diet and training routine are in place for an extended period of time. You need to build a base first. Right now you are taking the easy way out.

If you arent motivated to workout and diet right now then steroids arent going to change that
- November 5, 2020 at 9:56 am
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Noles12
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Also price discussion is against the board rules. You need to edit that price out of your post
- November 5, 2020 at 11:19 am
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lovbyts
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Alright I edited price, I get it.. but I’m doing this anyway and would appreciate help doing it right. I have been on consistent training and diet for past month… I realize that’s nowhere near standards, but I’m jumping into this no matter what so I want help, not lecturing. I’ve been drinking whey, taking supplements, following things I’ve found on other sites about eating clean and loading protein, all that stuff. I have extremely personal reasons for doing this that I’m not gonna bring up on here, but there is no way I’m changing my mind about this… so please–no more lecturing just help me do it as safe as possible.
- November 5, 2020 at 12:23 pm
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Noles12
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Originally Posted by st29

Alright I edited price, I get it.. but I’m doing this anyway and would appreciate help doing it right. I have been on consistent training and diet for past month… I realize that’s nowhere near standards, but I’m jumping into this no matter what so I want help, not lecturing. I’ve been drinking whey, taking supplements, following things I’ve found on other sites about eating clean and loading protein, all that stuff. I have extremely personal reasons for doing this that I’m not gonna bring up on here, but there is no way I’m changing my mind about this… so please–no more lecturing just help me do it as safe as possible.

Im not trying to lecture you. Just trying to help.

I personally do not think there is a proper way of going about cycling when you havent been consistent in your training and diet. I dont think you realize how many people i have dealt with that spend a month working out then just stop. Until you can devote your time towards it for a few years i do not think you are ready.
- November 5, 2020 at 1:26 pm
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lovbyts
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Agreed with the above. You are asking for help and it is being given to you, you are just choosing not to listen. Would you help someone do something if you knew it was the wrong thing to do? How do you help someone do the wrong thing safely? It’s still the wrong thing.

You need to step back and look at the big picture. aas is not going to motivate you, it will not give you the energy to get into the gym and you will loose all of your gains as fast as you made them due to diet. If you cant grow now you cant grow and maintain using aas. Sorry but it’s the simple truth.
- November 5, 2020 at 2:51 pm
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SlimmerMe
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Originally Posted by st29

Alright I edited price, I get it.. but I’m doing this anyway and would appreciate help doing it right. I have been on consistent training and diet for past month… I realize that’s nowhere near standards, but I’m jumping into this no matter what so I want help, not lecturing. I’ve been drinking whey, taking supplements, following things I’ve found on other sites about eating clean and loading protein, all that stuff. I have extremely personal reasons for doing this that I’m not gonna bring up on here, but there is no way I’m changing my mind about this… so please–no more lecturing just help me do it as safe as possible.

This is what I am taking away from this. There is a motivation which seems urgent to you at the moment; yet not worth it in the long run. Whatever your reason is for jumping in when you are not ready, needs to really be soul searched because you are not ready. Plus since you want to gain, your gains will not remain. "tis true.

Please step back and pause. Look at the big picture. Your reason might be temporary.
- November 5, 2020 at 3:49 pm
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nilrac
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I’d say at your height atleast try and get to 190Lbs lean. Sure you can do it naturally in a matter of months.

Otherwise, personally I run arimidex eod ranging between 0.25 – 0.50ml depending how I feel when using test (e). This helps control estro sides. I always have nolva on hand incase gyno rears it’s ugly head, but leave it for PCT.

GL whatever you decide.
- November 5, 2020 at 5:10 pm
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Noles12
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You need to put that gear in your drawer. Look at it everyday for motivation.

Just work out for 2 months straight. Eat like a horse. Then hop on gear.

I totally understand not being motivated unless your "on".

you are not going to be happy with the cycle results, at least not nearly as happy as you should be.
- November 10, 2020 at 1:26 am
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merQ
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Alright, thanks everyone for your help. I’m going to delay taking these a little bit after the overwhelming number of cautionary responses, but I want to get my orders finished up and all this mentally sorted out now.

I’m going to go with Arimidex and hCG for on-cycle. Nolva for PCT.

Here are my remaining questions:
1. Is it advisable to use only test-e at the start (say first 4 weeks), just to see how my body reacts to testosterone alone? Or should I immediately use AI?
2. For AI, does everyone agree with .25 mg every other day of Arimidex?
3. If I start to get gyno symptoms, should I take Nolva at 40 or 20mg/day for the rest of cycle?
4. Does PCT of only Nolva at 20mg/day for 4 weeks sound good?
5. How would I do subq injections of hCG obtained in the form of 10000 IU/ml (in terms of syringes, bacteriostatic water, mixing, storage, I don’t know what else)?
- November 10, 2020 at 2:42 am
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Noles12
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Originally Posted by st29

Alright, thanks everyone for your help. I’m going to delay taking these a little bit after the overwhelming number of cautionary responses, but I want to get my orders finished up and all this mentally sorted out now.

I’m going to go with Arimidex and hCG for on-cycle. Nolva for PCT.

Here are my remaining questions:
1. Is it advisable to use only test-e at the start (say first 4 weeks), just to see how my body reacts to testosterone alone? Or should I immediately use AI?I prefer for a first cycle just to have extra Nolva on hand rathering than running an AI throughout just to see how you respond. I personally never have issues other than bloat therefore i dont use AI’s
2. For AI, does everyone agree with .25 mg every other day of Arimidex?yes if you did run it i would start low. Maybe try running it at .25 mg ED if needed
3. If I start to get gyno symptoms, should I take Nolva at 40 or 20mg/day for the rest of cycle?No need to run it for the whole cycle. Just run it until symptoms subside then start on an AI
4. Does PCT of only Nolva at 20mg/day for 4 weeks sound good?No it does not. That is too weak IMO. I prefer: Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 20/20/20/20
5. How would I do subq injections of hCG obtained in the form of 10000 IU/ml (in terms of syringes, bacteriostatic water, mixing, storage, I don’t know what else)?There is lots of articles and threads on this that go into great detail. Just search for it

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