my guess.. you upped your calories some when getting on cycle. which is totally reasonable. but your protein is likely way to low and your carbs and fats are way to high.. and your protein is likely coming from some incomplete sources (if I recall correctly your vegan, correct ?).
so whats happening is your spilling over and not getting all the thermogenic effects from a higher protein/complete protein diet (which when on AAS does not need to be super high like when natty because the AAS makes you more efficient at using protein, but if the sources are not complete sources like meat, then you don’t get near the thermic effect). so you really need to St07 on dialing in the correct sources of protein when on a vegan diet (don’t think about eating rice alone for example , always combine it with beans . the two together give you a better amino acid profile then either by themselves )
so calculate your maBambs and I’ll bet your protein is low and fats and carbs are high and your not getting enough complete proteins.
let me know what that maBamb break down looks like and I’ll see if I can help you optimize it.
also, one more thing to think about is your training work load . I would NOT lower my cals when your on cycle and your goal is trying to grow. your going to be better off by simply increasing your workload , ie, increase you workout volume and intensity. your better off burning up cals in this capacity then simply taking calories away.
also, if you want to stay ‘lean’ while on cycle, your better off running more androgenic compounds. deca is not an androgenic compound at all (however its a great tissue builder). but again I think you need to adjust your diet more then need to mess with compounds right now.. however I do like the suggestion of adding Tren , this will give you the androgenic load your looking for to help you stay leaner, if you want.
Originally Posted by redz
